Does Ethan have Super Human Regeneration, OR are first aid meds actually really good?

[Panic Fire]

So I see this brought up in a lot of threads or discussions about the game that Ethan must be infected, or yada yada because he can reattach arms and legs ect. That he heals all wounds by sprinkling what many lets players have dubbed magic healing juice.


Now a lot can be said that Ethan is infected and thus can regrow limbs and such, however I'm more in line to belive the healing meds are actually just that good. First lets get a little back story on meds in the RE universe.

First Aid Spray has been with us from the dawn of RE games. Its pretty evident that the FAS was invented by Umbrella and was there flagship product. Most likely created from herbs found in the Arklay Mountain region. Umbrella began the effort to spread these herbs all over the globe. Which is why they are found as potted plants through the RE series and why most people have some knowledge to mix herbs together. First Aid Spray is supposed to close and heal wounds almost instantaniously. And as long as the target isn't mortally wounded, they can pretty much recover quickly.

Flash Forward to RE7 and we have

First Aid Med
Closes up wounds and promotes cell regeneration. Partially restores health


Its my oppinon that the reason Ethan can reattach limbs is because of the highly effective medicen in the RE universe and not because hes infected. He may be infected but I don't believe that is causing the rapid healing we see when we use Meds.

Whats your thoughts?

[El Fuerte]

You've put too many thought on this.

He is infected. End of Story.

[Seamus]

He's infected AND first aid meds are stupidly powerful.

[Lanzagranadas]

Ethan is not infected at least until Eveline captures him near the wrecked ship. He couldn't be infected if Eveline still didn't make contact with him.

It's a video game. Recovery medicines with instant healing powers, item boxes and ink ribbons/cassette tapes are not part of the actual story, they're just a gameplay device, like in pretty much every game. Story-wise, no medicine will bring a character who's close to death to a perfect condition in a second.

Plot events is what really matters, not gameplay. Ethan's hand is cut during a scripted plot event, and reattached by surgery (it doesn't auto-regenerate). Ethan's leg being cut is an optional easter egg that you won't normally see, so it's not something that necessarily happened.

[sensei244]

He is infected before the ship, otherwise he would not be able to see Eveline in the old house after he obtains D-series arm.

[Lanzagranadas]

Originally posted by sensei244:

He is infected before the ship, otherwise he would not be able to see Eveline in the old house after he obtains D-series arm.

If that's so, can you tell when did he got infected?

[Seamus]

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

Originally posted by sensei244:

He is infected before the ship, otherwise he would not be able to see Eveline in the old house after he obtains D-series arm.

If that's so, can you tell when did he got infected?

Some time around when he gets his hand cut off.

[sensei244]

After he is knocked out by Jack and before dinner with the family.

[Lanzagranadas]

You're just guessing that. Nothing really implies it happened at that time.

Lucas' hand is cut off during the dinner scene. He doesn't care because he's infected, he know his hand will regenerate itself soon.

Ethan's hand is cut off. He almost died (like a normal person would do) if it wasn't for Zoe who reattached his hand through some rusty medical treatment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NFL0mnUHkA

So if he was already infected back then, why didn't he regenerate himself? Either I'm missing something or this game just has some important plot-holes.

[Seamus]

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

Lucas' hand is cut off during the dinner scene. He doesn't care because he's infected, he know his hand will regenerate itself soon.

Ethan's hand is cut off. He almost die (like a normal person would do) if it wasn't for Zoe who reattached his hand through some rusty medical treatment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NFL0mnUHkA

So if he was already infected back then, why didn't he regenerate himself? Either I'm missing something or this game just has some important plot-holes.

He doesn't know he's infected until the end of the game. He had no idea he COULD regenerate.

Edit: Also, early stage infection likely wouldn't result in straight growing new limbs like the Bakers. Just, easier time healing when the severed limb is stapled back on by some redneck chick.

[Lanzagranadas]

I've found this in the "R&D Report" in-game file:

"Almost immediately after infection, the subject begins to see images of Eveline (though she is not in fact there) and hear her voice (which is inaudible to anyone else)."

So, it's clear he has been induced to some early stage infection, but it's not clear when did he get infected. He was supposed to have visions almost inmediatly after infection, and his first visions came quite far in the game.

In any case, he doesn't develop any heal/regeneration powers because his infection was in a very early stage (visions are the first sympthom, mutations come in a later stage)

[sensei244]

How fast is 'Almost Immediately'? Infection should take different time depending on the subject. Ethan's adventure is not very long. Whole game may be completed in less than 2 hours. We don't know how much time exaclty passed.

[Panic Fire]

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

Ethan is not infected at least until Eveline captures him near the wrecked ship. He couldn't be infected if Eveline still didn't make contact with him.

It's a video game. Recovery medicines with instant healing powers, item boxes and ink ribbons/cassette tapes are not part of the actual story, they're just a gameplay device, like in pretty much every game. Story-wise, no medicine will bring a character who's close to death to a perfect condition in a second.

Plot events is what really matters, not gameplay. Ethan's hand is cut during a scripted plot event, and reattached by surgery (it doesn't auto-regenerate). Ethan's leg being cut is an optional easter egg that you won't normally see, so it's not something that necessarily happened.

Recovery medicines in RE games are actually supposed to be that powerful hence (how Umbrella made all there money) as a Big Pharma company. They used that money to start producing bio weapon research.

As for his leg being cut off, both jack and infected can both trigger that scene (though only jack taunts you with the healing meds of course). His hand isn't reattached via surgery, its stapled back on via a stapler (not a surgery stapler) the real question is was first aid med applied to it to get it to bond together or does his infection allow that hand to reattach, or was he even infected at that point.

[Lanzagranadas]

Originally posted by sensei244:

How fast is 'Almost Immediately'? Infection should take different time depending on the subject. Ethan's adventure is not very long. Whole game may be completed in less than 2 hours. We don't know how much time exaclty passed.

You may speedrun them in one or two hours when you already know the game, but "realistically", most RE games start at evening/night and end at the dawn of the next day. RE7 starts at evening (or night if we skip the guest house) and ends at dawn, just like RE1, RE2 or RE0, meaning Ethan's adventure took quite a few hours.

We don't really know when exactly Ethan became infected, people just take for granted that he must have been infected off-screen while he was unconscious because we didn't see when it happened. But it could have actually happened later without us knowing it. Infected people don't allways know when did they exactly become infected.

The file says hallucinations should start almost inmediatly after infection, and his hallucinations start right after travelling the path behind the altar and obtaining the D-Series arm. There's no sign of Eveline in Ethan's mind before that.

Originally posted by Panic Fire:

As for his leg being cut off, both jack and infected can both trigger that scene (though only jack taunts you with the healing meds of course). His hand isn't reattached via surgery, its stapled back on via a stapler (not a surgery stapler) the real question is was first aid med applied to it to get it to bond together or does his infection allow that hand to reattach, or was he even infected at that point.

Ok, his hand is stapled then. Still that means no regen powers (Ethan couldn't have them before the hallucinations appeared) and no magical medicines. I don't think we're expected to take it seriously that medicines are so powerful in the RE universe that they can reattach missing limbs, it's just a gameplay device.

Jack can cut off your leg just as Jack and other enemies can kill you in multiple ways. Doesn't mean any of that is part of the plot and actually happened, those are optional events.

[Panic Fire]

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

Originally posted by sensei244:

How fast is 'Almost Immediately'? Infection should take different time depending on the subject. Ethan's adventure is not very long. Whole game may be completed in less than 2 hours. We don't know how much time exaclty passed.

You may speedrun them in one or two hours when you already know the game, but "realistically", most RE games start at evening/night and end at the dawn of the next day. RE7 starts at evening (or night if we skip the guest house) and ends at dawn, just like RE1, RE2 or RE0, meaning Ethan's adventure took quite a few hours.

We don't really know when exactly Ethan became infected, people just take for granted that he must have been infected off-screen while he was unconscious because we didn't see when it happened. But it could have been actually happened later without us knowing it.

His hallucinations start right after travelling the path behind the altar and obtaining the D-Series arm. There's no sign of Eveline in Ethan's mind before that.

Originally posted by Panic Fire:

As for his leg being cut off, both jack and infected can both trigger that scene (though only jack taunts you with the healing meds of course). His hand isn't reattached via surgery, its stapled back on via a stapler (not a surgery stapler) the real question is was first aid med applied to it to get it to bond together or does his infection allow that hand to reattach, or was he even infected at that point.

Ok, his hand is stapled then. Still that means no regen powers (Ethan couldn't have them before the hallucinations appeared) and no magical medicines. I don't think we're expected to take it seriously that medicines are so powerful in the RE universe that they can reattach missing limbs, it's just a gameplay device.

Jack can cut off your leg just as Jack and other enemies can kill you in multiple ways. Doesn't mean any of that is part of the plot and actually happened, those are optional events.

Those may be optional events, but those events are always in scene and work by reatching a limb via First Aid Med. RE games are in a scifi universe so its not a strech to believe that Umbrella discovered a miracle drug called First Aid Spray. (which is a mixture developed based on herbs found only in the Arklay Mountain Region. In addition we are now many years in the future since that drug was created and Umbrella (new managament) has possibly even streamlined it by making the chemical additive that can be added to herbs to make first aid meds. RE is a science fiction game, so I don't think its much of a stretch to believe the meds are in fact that good.

I agree that he couldn't have regen powers before the hallucinations unless he had regen abilities before being infected. Why does Ethan know how use a gun so well? Why is Ethan rather detached from the events going on around him. Who does Ethan work for? A rival corporation? An anti BOW organization? Does he personally know Chris?

As I said its my belief that the in universe meds healed Ethan through out the game. Not regen powers caused by being infected.

[Seamus]

Originally posted by Panic Fire:

Those may be optional events, but those events are always in scene and work by reatching a limb via First Aid Med. RE games are in a scifi universe so its not a strech to believe that Umbrella discovered a miracle drug called First Aid Spray. (which is a mixture developed based on herbs found only in the Arklay Mountain Region. In addition we are now many years in the future since that drug was created and Umbrella (new managament) has possibly even streamlined it by making the chemical additive that can be added to herbs to make first aid meds. RE is a science fiction game, so I don't think its much of a stretch to believe the meds are in fact that good.

I agree that he couldn't have regen powers before the hallucinations unless he had regen abilities before being infected. Why does Ethan know how use a gun so well? Why is Ethan rather detached from the events going on around him. Who does Ethan work for? A rival corporation? An anti BOW organization? Does he personally know Chris?

As I said its my belief that the in universe meds healed Ethan through out the game. Not regen powers caused by being infected.

According to Capcom, Ethan's supposed to just be a normal guywith no training. He was a systems engineer before this ♥♥♥♥ went down.