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Kazuma Satou 9. des. 2015 kl. 22.07
Let's get a concensus of each character's role/combat style
Trying to get a better grasp of each of the character's specific combat role, or "character class". From what I'm able to understand, the CURRENT form of each character are:
Ruby
  1. Balanced
  2. AoE oriented
Weiss
  1. Role Versatility - Single Target/AoE can be spec'd to rival the others
  2. Stronger range attacks and specials
Blake
  1. High Single Target DPS
  2. Fast Special point generation
Yang
  1. Tank - Second Wind + Brawler abilities augments survivability
  2. Sustained DPS
Personally, I've only concentrated on Ruby and Blake but I have no idea when it comes to the combat strategy of Weiss or Yang; I'd really like to get a consensus from the community on how these characters fit when it comes to combat roles. So please, discuss!

Edit: updated character roles based on posts until Dec 11
Sist redigert av Kazuma Satou; 30. des. 2015 kl. 22.32
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Opprinnelig skrevet av Lingu:
This isn't a damn MMO. Why does everyone try to force roles onto everyone?
Weiss can literally perform every single role ever so forcing her to be "support" is dumb.

Every thread I always see people posting about Weiss being a support but her supernova really beats her freeze nova by miles. I'd rather kill everyone than freeze everyone. Weiss can AOE much better than Ruby so I don't see where you're pulling this information out of.

AOE heals are worthless.

Pulling and maintaining aggro? I swear the WOW Paladins manage to leak their way into every game ever. The aggro mechanics do not work like that. There is no purpose to pull aggro to protect your "deepz" or "heelz" .

Opprinnelig skrevet av Saga:
Ruby-balanced, main dps warrior, good in everything (melee, range, single, crowd)
Yong-tank, high survivability, strong dps
Weise-mage, priest
Blake-Rrogue, ninja, assassin

This post does not make sense on any level. There are NO dedicated roles because everyone can do everything just fine. If you think Weiss is just a caster who can't efficiently use melee, I got news for you because she has a really good melee moveset. If you think Yang is a "tank" I also got news for you, everyone is different depending on how you build them and you can choose to not build any HP/aura stats on Yang and perform just fine.

And why are you so overreactive when someone was just venting opinion on virtual video game characters? I was not even force roles onto RWBY characters, I was sharing my thoughts when TC made this topic. I don't give ♥♥♥♥ if Weiss is a better melee fighter or Yang sucks at tanking if she does not have aura passive skills.
There are millions of posts requesting character creation on this forum. If you don't like people treating this game like MMO, rant somewhere else.
Sist redigert av ♪~くまモン~♪; 10. des. 2015 kl. 17.25
haruka fan 10. des. 2015 kl. 23.38 
You still haven't provided any information to back up your "opinion". I don't even know if that post was based on ingame mechanics or based on fluff but on both sides it doesn't even work out. In the show, everyone is a good melee fighter. In game, everyone is a good melee fighter. You're just posting arbitrary views on how you'd like the game to play out and I just think MMO combat by design is pretty bad. Name one MMO that gives the same visceral combat experience as Bayonetta. You're allowed to post your opinions but don't cry if someone points out how ridiculous it sounds.
Opprinnelig skrevet av Lingu:
You still haven't provided any information to back up your "opinion". I don't even know if that post was based on ingame mechanics or based on fluff but on both sides it doesn't even work out. In the show, everyone is a good melee fighter. In game, everyone is a good melee fighter. You're just posting arbitrary views on how you'd like the game to play out and I just think MMO combat by design is pretty bad. Name one MMO that gives the same visceral combat experience as Bayonetta. You're allowed to post your opinions but don't cry if someone points out how ridiculous it sounds.

What's wrong with my saying I feel Weiss play like a mge type? She has crowd control and super nova/pierce/ice bolt do their jobs to freeze enemies. Blake has clones which reminds me of ninja substitues in Naruto shows. What's so ridiculous? Does mage have to be literally aweful at melee combat? It is YOU who took my post too seriously and want to argue in vain. Get your flamebaits elsewhere.
haruka fan 11. des. 2015 kl. 0.02 
Everyone has crowd control. By the archetype of mage are we talking DnD or even further back like LOTR or super forward like WoW or League of Legends. Either way, Weiss doesn't do that role any better than anyone else. Everyone has AOE nukes which is what the "mage" archetype has mostly been about. The mage archetype also sucks at sword combat and if you probably should have picked a better archetype to go off.
Opprinnelig skrevet av Saga:
Blake has clones which reminds me of ninja substitues in Naruto shows.

That line made me chuckle and pretty much sums up the whole discussion. Have a nice day.




Sist redigert av haruka fan; 11. des. 2015 kl. 0.04
I still don't get what you are trying to prove. What's your statement? In some MMO, melee characters may have better crowd control, and mages are pure nuker and dps. It's no surprise to mel. My first impression on Weiss in this game is a mage type. Also, Monty is an asian and he used to work for Bandai Namco before. It's pretty normal for him to merge some elements and concepts from those famous animes into his works.
I have no clue how come it sounds so funny to you. Maybe you got some "problems" and need some consultants lol.
Sist redigert av ♪~くまモン~♪; 11. des. 2015 kl. 0.28
haruka fan 11. des. 2015 kl. 0.29 
"Monty is an asian. It's pretty normal for him to merge some elements from those famous animes into his works."
Racism. I like it.

"Maybe you got some "problems" and need some consultants lol."
Personal attacks. I like it.

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Sist redigert av haruka fan; 11. des. 2015 kl. 0.30
Asian=Racism

hmph, keep trying
haruka fan 11. des. 2015 kl. 1.10 
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Kazuma Satou 30. des. 2015 kl. 22.36 
Updated the original post based on the posts.

How do you all feel about this new "consensus"? Since several weeks have passed and players have gotten practice on characters that are not their first choice, I'd like to get more extensive feedback on each of these character's playstyles based on their specific abilities and combos.
Kazuma Satou 30. des. 2015 kl. 23.34 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Alex:
I haven't read your wall of text, but I'd like to respond with this: the reason for this thread is to see IF there are gameplay styles to each character (example: To play Blake and take advantage of her specials and character specific abilties, should melee, range, or X type of playstyle be used?). I am not even THINKING about the series or its translation of series protrayals to gameplay; I am only thinking of the game itself as a game, and as a game, I feel there are developers' intended direction of how their game and its characters should be played, and then there are how players play the game based on what is the most optimal/dynamic/easiest to complete the game.

Once again, I'm not trying to say that there is. What I am asking is if it exists, and if so, what is it. I agree that this game isn't a 4-person team where each character is pigeon hole'd into a role like class-based games, such as Tank, DPS, Medic, Support, and is forced to play such a role the entire game; each of the characters can essentially do whatever they want, as long as they mind their aura and their surroundings while pouring on the damage. But do you not agree that there exists playstyles to take advantage of character-specific abilities, such as Yang's Second Wing and Brawler's abiltiies that promote survivability and tanking? Even MOBAs have different playstyles for characters of the same "class" due to their specific abilities, even if they have Area, Single, and Ranged specials.

I will read your entire essay tomorrow as it is late so do not think I'm disregarding your argument.
Sist redigert av Kazuma Satou; 30. des. 2015 kl. 23.36
Ardi 31. des. 2015 kl. 4.32 
IMO blake is best at maintaining aggro since she is so god bloody fast.
☆☾Epsilon 31. des. 2015 kl. 10.05 
Can't we just play the way we want? It is ok to have certain roles for the characters but in the end it is a hack n slash game with just one point which is killing enemies! The makers of the game just wanted some difference in abilities between the characters, more fighting abilities will probably be added when more info of how they fight is revealed in the show. They had what, only four team fights- the forest, the lunchroom, the mech, and the tournament? And it wasn't until recently when it was revealed Weiss may soon have the ability to summon!? It is ok to have an idea of how they should all be played but let's not have a meta in a hack n slash game where it is only pve so far!
brudda 31. des. 2015 kl. 16.54 
mmm, I wouldn't say the characters have any specific roles...they may seem like it, but all can kill grim efficiently and beat the stages with ease solo.

Tomorrow 1. jan. 2016 kl. 14.26 
Wow some people are getting really mad about life in here...
Kytae 1. jan. 2016 kl. 17.00 
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198017568138/screenshot/362903713105714033

My masterful Yang AoE all the things forever build. Ive never lost a game to anyone in terms of score when using this.
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