Under some cold conditions the progress bar to next max health point decreases.

[Zuleica]

This has occurred in a number of circumstances. Some of which my cold tolerance was lower than the ambient temperature. Standing on the ice of the NW lake with cold tolerance of -8.5C and ambient of -5C my max health progress bar started decreasing until it reached zero and my max health decreased by one. My actual health never decreased.

Other times if the temp was below my cold tolerance both my health bar and progress bar would decrease.

Other times standing on the ice of the East lake I did not see that happen.

I've also see it happen while on a cable car even though my cold tolerance was below the ambient.

I don't recall any patch notes that talked about the max health progress bar decreasing other than from dying.

[Nocternaldaze]

I had a bug where my max health was 102 and when i levelled up my stamina my max health got reduced to 101, and same with leveling my max health i could not go higher than 102 without it taking away a level, happened twice in a row, but seems to be allowing me to go above 102 now, and haven`t died once in this saved game so not sure what caused it.

[Zuleica]

A little more testing by changing the month it looks like January I can repeat this but in February or even December it doesn't happen much. January standing over the cave on the ice of the NW lake.

[Nocternaldaze]

Originally posted by Zuleica:

A little more testing by changing the month it looks like January I can repeat this but in February or even December it doesn't happen much. January standing over the cave on the ice of the NW lake.

i never took much notice of the month but i was in the winter time, i am back to end of February now and not had it happen again yet, but am keeping a eye on it to see if it happens again and if it does at what month does it happen.

[Zuleica]

Also noticed the same thing happen as late as May. If you are at high altitude, especially riding a cable car and the temp falls below your low temp threshold you will start losing the blue bar that is your progress to the next stamina level. Basically under a variety of non-death conditions both the health and stamina progress bars decrease in value which can then cause a reduction in the max health or max stamina.

[Zuleica]

CG, Basically I'm seeing that, other than death, there are situations where the blue and red bars under stamina and health bars decrease. Specifically under certain cold conditions but also sometimes when bleeding or other damage. I was under the impression that the progress bars to next stamina and health max levels did not decrease except for death.

[Nocternaldaze]

Originally posted by Zuleica:

Also noticed the same thing happen as late as May. If you are at high altitude, especially riding a cable car and the temp falls below your low temp threshold you will start losing the blue bar that is your progress to the next stamina level. Basically under a variety of non-death conditions both the health and stamina progress bars decrease in value which can then cause a reduction in the max health or max stamina.

Thank you Zuleica i will keep a eye on those as well has i haven`t looked at those to see if they decrease as well. Yea first time i lost max health 1 point i was on mountain and when i started getting cold i took the heat pack, but lost a point in health even though i shouldn`t have been cold, second one for me was in my base on edge of the large south lake i was standing infront of wood burner cooking and got a notification, looked at my health and had lost a point instead of gaining one.

[Zuleica]

I think that the part I'm finding may be a bug is standing on the ice even though the ambient is above my threshold and I don't have a 'you are cold' message, my health bar is not decreasing but the progress bar is decreasing. I can also see this if i'm in a cable car traveling above the ice on the NW lake. Even if standing on ice was intended to do this traveling above the ice should not.

If I reduce my cold tolerance such that ambient is lower than the threshold both my health bar and progress bar decrease.

[Nocternaldaze]

Originally posted by Zuleica:

I think that the part I'm finding may be a bug is standing on the ice even though the ambient is above my threshold and I don't have a 'you are cold' message, my health bar is not decreasing but the progress bar is decreasing. I can also see this if i'm in a cable car traveling above the ice on the NW lake. Even if standing on ice was intended to do this traveling above the ice should not.

If I reduce my cold tolerance such that ambient is lower than the threshold both my health bar and progress bar decrease.

i will do a test later, i am in April and my temperature threshold is -3.7 degrees, so i will head up mountain until my temperature hits anything lower than that and will see what happens to my progress bars whilst i am that high up and also what happens when i level my health stat to see if it deducts it again.

[Nocternaldaze]

Ok i did a short test with the temperature, so at 105 max health with no health loss i went up the mountain, once i hit -7 degrees (character can withstand -3.7 degrees) i stood still which put me on the first ledge of the mountain, and kept a eye on health and progress bars. Once my health hit 78 i then noticed my health progress bar drop, my stamina stat one never moved, so maybe if my health dropped more i might have seen it also drop but could only do a quick test for now.

[Nocternaldaze]

I can see what is happening now, so every time you take a health hit the health progress bar also takes a drop, so if you are at 105 health and you take damage 4 times then the health progress bar almost drops by half but in increments for each health damage.

So you are correct Zuleica with your findings on what is happening when taking progress drops for certain cold conditions.

[Nocternaldaze]

I just found this info so it looks like it is by design.

in Subsistence, cold weather can indeed affect your player's health and stamina progress bars. When the ambient temperature drops below your character's cold tolerance, both the health and stamina progress bars can decrease. This means that if you're exposed to cold conditions for too long, your maximum health and stamina levels can drop, making it harder to progress to the next level.

It's important to keep an eye on your character's cold tolerance and take measures to stay warm, such as finding shelter or wearing appropriate clothing.

[Zuleica]

Yeah, I can also confirm that cold affects both health and progress bars but what I saw was, while standing on the ice it only affected my progress bar, my health never dropped.

I also have noticed that using cable cars, when the towers are high enough, is fairly dangerous in the winter months even with a heat pack.

[Nocternaldaze]

Originally posted by Zuleica:

Yeah, I can also confirm that cold affects both health and progress bars but what I saw was, while standing on the ice it only affected my progress bar, my health never dropped.

I also have noticed that using cable cars, when the towers are high enough, is fairly dangerous in the winter months even with a heat pack.

Yep good point yours is certainly being affected differently to how mine is, so there is something weird going on with how the cold is affecting player stats.