Subsistence is DEAD!

[toven242]

Lack of content, lack of direction and lack of support. Subsistence had potential. Unfortunately the developer (ColdGames) had no consideration for customers that reach out about real issues. Questions, comments, real issues that needed attention. ColdGames leaves his customers in the dark. It's time to realize that there are a HUGE amount of games out there that provide better content and better outreach from their creators. You say ColdGames is a solo developer. Well I say that is part of the problem! Out of this I learned that I am forever staying away from games that have solo devs.

In conclusion, I am really hoping that gamers realize that The Steam Fall Sale is next week. There are so many survival games out there that provide what you're looking for. Games that have developers caring about your feedback and loyalty. Games that you don't have to mod just to enjoy a few mins of it. Let's realize it folks.... Subsistence is DEAD!

[Taiwanenes]

This is the longest game I have ever played, it has been played for more than a thousand hours. Among the survival games on STEAM, I think this is the closest to reality, and it will not be dark and full of zombies.
It's not perfect, but I support no dark zombies and don't have to upgrade to UNREAL 5 to get more than 16GB of the game. I won't upgrade the graphics card after still playing zombies and not seeing anything.

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by Taiwanenes:

This is the longest game I have ever played, it has been played for more than a thousand hours. Among the survival games on STEAM, I think this is the closest to reality, and it will not be dark and full of zombies.
It's not perfect, but I support no dark zombies and don't have to upgrade to UNREAL 5 to get more than 16GB of the game. I won't upgrade the graphics card after still playing zombies and not seeing anything.

I'm wondering (honest question), if you play the game for realism, which I also like to do with survival games half the time. What do you tell yourself the loot bags come from? Do you just not think about them or do you come up with an explanation to let them not break your immersion and realism based experience?

[cougar206]

Apocalypse you didn't ask me, but I will respond. If you want realism step out your front door. Realism isn't an objective of a game. An engaging experience is.

Lets look at some of the most successful movies over the years. Star Wars, realistic? Absolutely not. Harry Potter? Of course not. But engaging? Yes. They created their own reality and made it engaging.

Any argument about reality in a game is just silly, it is a game, not real life.

[Apocalypse]

Different games can get to their experience in different ways, I specifically asked him this question because it sounded like he was looking for a realistic experience. I like to really immerse myself and "roleplay" if you will, in survival games, and things like the magic crates in Subsistence would be something I could not ignore playing LIKE THIS. It would break my immersion if I played it with that mind set. So I was interested in how he approached that if it even bothered him.
Did I say all aspects of a game should be realistic? Nopes
Did I say a realistic approach is the only way to create an interesting experience? No, in fact I said: " if you play the game for realism, which I also like to do with survival games HALF THE TIME" which already tells you I play half my games for different reasons and making your tutoring lesson futile if you just read what I said.
Does anyone when talking about a game being realistic ever mean that is like stepping outside? Of course not, its all relative. You understand that, yet still wanted to tell me you found out what I should be looking for in games or wanted to just argue about semantics because you think only your way of looking at things is the right one lol

[jakeman75]

This game is note dead , Its got one dev he just up dates when he is ready .I love this game

[Zuleica]

I've amortized my entertainment value down to about a penny per hour, not sure how you get a better value than that.

[HKMark]

I'm approaching 3,000 hours. I have the following observations for ColdGames:
- the environment is compelling and I enjoy spending time in it (the caves are excellent);
- having said that, expanding the map just for the sake of making the place bigger no longer adds value to the game IMHO;
- base development is good now that we finally have water management, though we need more furniture items (and a decent bed replacement/upgrade please);
- Wall holders for light sticks would be a welcome addition;
- I'd like to see my base become more liveable - I'd like to be able to sleep and wake up there and make a cup of coffee;
- The reason that there's only one dev was being used when we were waiting three months between updates. Now it's six, which is a long time considering there's a reasonable chance it might not be worth the wait (viz: elevator; double-barrelled shotgun; hang glider... ). It's also a long time considering a shed load of money has been made off of this game already, so don't expect sympathy anymore;
- If you want to encrypt the code to exclude modders, then fine, but at least give us some more stuff please;
- If the next update's going to be the final one, please let us know.

[ENOWONMAI]

Oh man since a rando told me Subsistence is dead it must be true. I better uninstall and stop playing it then.

Or I will just keep playing whatever game I feel like playing.

[LE]

These year's old post are purposely being reposted to cause confusion, it's good that they are being locked. Thank you for doing so.

[ENOWONMAI]

Originally posted by LE:

These year's old post are purposely being reposted to cause confusion, it's good that they are being locked. Thank you for doing so.

Right? The haters are getting desperate and in their blind rage can't even fathom that other players truly enjoy Subsistence.

[LE]

Originally posted by ENOWONMAI:

Originally posted by LE:

These year's old post are purposely being reposted to cause confusion, it's good that they are being locked. Thank you for doing so.

Right? The haters are getting desperate and in their blind rage can't even fathom that other players truly enjoy Subsistence.

Yes, sorry to say their sole purpose is to try and kill any positive feedback by players of this game by continually spamming at nauseum repeat post of negativity.

[Quest]

Sorry to say, Subsistence has no future. There are some good elements you can find in the game that have an advantage over others. Unfortunately it's also boring as hell and has very little content. Overall, if you're any good at the game, you'll find that it is too predictable. Step out of your comfort and try something else. You'll find it's more entertaining to see people defending the game than actually playing it.

[Hunter451]

I pity your future in life as a loser, this game has a lot of potential and is certainly not dead.

[ENOWONMAI]

Originally posted by Arbor88:

Sorry to say, Subsistence has no future. There are some good elements you can find in the game that have an advantage over others. Unfortunately it's also boring as hell and has very little content. Overall, if you're any good at the game, you'll find that it is too predictable. Step out of your comfort and try something else. You'll find it's more entertaining to see people defending the game than actually playing it.

Subsistence is a sandbox that gives you the tools to basically do whatever you want, seeing what other players can accomplish with it, like build a whole city, and then seeing people like you who claim it is boring and predictable says more about you than the game. You should probably stick to games that have zombies or hold your hand and point out what tasks you must accomplish next since you clearly need distractions.

[Quest]

Originally posted by ENOWONMAI:

Originally posted by Arbor88:

Sorry to say, Subsistence has no future. There are some good elements you can find in the game that have an advantage over others. Unfortunately it's also boring as hell and has very little content. Overall, if you're any good at the game, you'll find that it is too predictable. Step out of your comfort and try something else. You'll find it's more entertaining to see people defending the game than actually playing it.

Subsistence is a sandbox that gives you the tools to basically do whatever you want, seeing what other players can accomplish with it, like build a whole city, and then seeing people like you who claim it is boring and predictable says more about you than the game. You should probably stick to games that have zombies or hold your hand and point out what tasks you must accomplish next since you clearly need distractions.

Well comparatively, Subsistence has a pretty hard time keeping up with other survival games. If you got out from under the developers sack, you would see what Subsistence is up against. Subsistence had a good run with good updates. However, given the fact that nobody hears from ColdGames indicates that even he is so bored with his game that he doesn't want anything to do with it. I got over 2000 hours into Subsistence. I've crafted, built and created everything that is possible. As well as hosted numerous servers and built communities around Subsistence. I'm sure when you get to that level you'll understand.