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I never have enough veggies!
Seriously, is it just me? Why do I never have enough veggies when I am running around the map? It's the most serious challenge I face in the game. I cannot count the number of times I've nearly died from lack of veganism, lol. I always have enough meat, all of the time, no matter where I am. And I have an entire freezer full of meat at my main base. But blueberries seem to be an extreme rarity and there is nothing else you can eat, except diving for kelp or growing yer own.

Is it just the way I play on 365? Maybe I should turn that off so I can get past April and then I won't starve from lack of being vegan?

And how can any human eat this much? I mean, I ate 4 whole chickens yesterday, 2 wolves, and 20 tomatoes and I was still starving all of the time!

Yeah, I know, it's just a game. But seriously, any advice on the veggie issue? And lithium, there's none of that either. I just didn't notice it until I started to build stuff that needs circuit boards.
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terry Feb 10 @ 10:30pm 
April or May isnt going to make any difference. Are you not growing your own veggies?
Also, how have you almost died from lack of veggies? I could be wrong but I dont remember losing health due to a low veggie bar.
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hyperion Feb 10 @ 10:32pm 
Originally posted by terry:
April or May isnt going to make any difference. Are you not growing your own veggies?
Also, how have you almost died from lack of veggies? I could be wrong but I dont remember losing health due to a low veggie bar.

Yeah, I have 3 planters of veggies now, one only tomatoes. I am fine when I am in my main base, but I start running around the map and hanging out in my 2 mini-bases and I am always facing starvation because of veggies. I can't take that much with me, it will spoil.

Almost dying from lack of veggies was that bar turning red and me not having enough energy to run away from packs of flying killer wolves and insane bears that must have rabies and both only being like 50 ft. way from me, no matter where I go, lol.
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terry Feb 10 @ 10:35pm 
Originally posted by hyperion:
Originally posted by terry:
April or May isnt going to make any difference. Are you not growing your own veggies?
Also, how have you almost died from lack of veggies? I could be wrong but I dont remember losing health due to a low veggie bar.

Yeah, I have 3 planets of veggies now, one only tomatoes. I am fine when I am in my main base, but I start running around the map and hanging out in my 2 mini-bases and I am alway facing starvation because of veggies. I can't take that much with me, it will spoil.

Almost dying from lack of veggies was that bar turning red and me not having enough energy to run away from packs of flying killer wolves and inane bears that must have rabies, lol.
Check out oven recipes for preserves.
hyperion Feb 10 @ 10:37pm 
Originally posted by terry:
Originally posted by hyperion:

Yeah, I have 3 planets of veggies now, one only tomatoes. I am fine when I am in my main base, but I start running around the map and hanging out in my 2 mini-bases and I am alway facing starvation because of veggies. I can't take that much with me, it will spoil.

Almost dying from lack of veggies was that bar turning red and me not having enough energy to run away from packs of flying killer wolves and inane bears that must have rabies, lol.
Check out oven recipes for preserves.

Sorry about the type-os, you'll probably have to re-read my post.

I am in no way ready to make preserves. I have an electric stove, but no cooking utensils to cook with, yet.

But I know about those things, I am just pretty early game right now and that is what I have to survive and lack of veggies is really getting annoying.
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terry Feb 10 @ 10:39pm 
Originally posted by hyperion:
Originally posted by terry:
Check out oven recipes for preserves.

Sorry about the type-os, you'll probably have to re-read my post.

I am in no way ready to make preserves. I have an electric stove, but no cooking utensils to cook with, yet.
Well, if you're having issues with veggie you may want to make the utensil needed for preserves a priority. Just a tip.
Or make a planter to put at your outposts so you have veggies there when spending time there. The veggies dont spoil if you leave them on the plants, so you can basically have a planter full of veggies waiting for your arrival.
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hyperion Feb 10 @ 10:47pm 
Originally posted by terry:
Originally posted by hyperion:

Sorry about the type-os, you'll probably have to re-read my post.

I am in no way ready to make preserves. I have an electric stove, but no cooking utensils to cook with, yet.
Well, if you're having issues with veggie you may want to make the utensil needed for preserves a priority. Just a tip.
Or make a planter to put at your outposts so you have veggies there when spending time there.

Thanks, those are good tips. So many problems to solve, so little time! I just now got around to taking a wood stove up to one of my mini-bases. Right now, I am trying to get some lithium so I can make a base extender because I am built on the north lake and I can't place my mining drill, so I can get enough water to water my plants without running back and forth to the lake every 3 minutes. I have plenty of the other ores, except for lithium and obsidian (which I am finding enough of now).
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terry Feb 10 @ 10:52pm 
Originally posted by hyperion:
Originally posted by terry:
Well, if you're having issues with veggie you may want to make the utensil needed for preserves a priority. Just a tip.
Or make a planter to put at your outposts so you have veggies there when spending time there.

Thanks, those are good tips. So many problems to solve, so little time! I just now got around to taking a wood stove up to one of my mini-bases. Right now, I am trying to get some lithium so I can make a base extender because I am built on the north lake and I can't place my mining drill, so I can get enough water to water my plants without running back and forth to the lake every 3 minutes. I have plenty of the other ores, except for lithium and obsidian (which I am finding enough of now).
When I build on a lake I leave a platform out and place stairs going down into the water so I have easy access to water. I then place a crate next that spot and fill it up with canteens. That way when its time to water my planters I can pick up a bunch of canteens, go water my plants, then refill the canteens right there.
As far as the mining drill placement goes, I was able to place them at the bottom of the lake in one of my playthroughs a while back. Not sure if thats still possible or not though.
hyperion Feb 10 @ 11:22pm 
Originally posted by terry:
Originally posted by hyperion:

Thanks, those are good tips. So many problems to solve, so little time! I just now got around to taking a wood stove up to one of my mini-bases. Right now, I am trying to get some lithium so I can make a base extender because I am built on the north lake and I can't place my mining drill, so I can get enough water to water my plants without running back and forth to the lake every 3 minutes. I have plenty of the other ores, except for lithium and obsidian (which I am finding enough of now).
When I build on a lake I leave a platform out and place stairs going down into the water so I have easy access to water. I then place a crate next that spot and fill it up with canteens. That way when its time to water my planters I can pick up a bunch of canteens, go water my plants, then refill the canteens right there.
As far as the mining drill placement goes, I was able to place them at the bottom of the lake in one of my playthroughs a while back. Not sure if thats still possible or not though.

I have easy access to water. I have stairs on the back of this down to the water. I just don't enjoy running down there with canteens all of the time. I have 3 planters on the front deck of that now. (you can see the first 2 in that photo).



I need to put a base extender down at the bottom of that ramp so I can place my mining drill. You can only place a mining drill on dirt now, you can't put them on rocks or in the water.

Last edited by hyperion; Feb 10 @ 11:25pm
Very early on I got the awesome idea to make 42 garden beds. While this was a PITA in the start it has paid off greatly. I never want for vegetables. After 2900 hours I finally piped them all in. I have more chutney then I could ever consume in 5 years lol. I usually save that for trips or caves. In my main base Ill usually munch on tomatoes.
hyperion Feb 11 @ 3:52am 
Originally posted by UnderJolt:
Very early on I got the awesome idea to make 42 garden beds. While this was a PITA in the start it has paid off greatly. I never want for vegetables. After 2900 hours I finally piped them all in. I have more chutney then I could ever consume in 5 years lol. I usually save that for trips or caves. In my main base Ill usually munch on tomatoes.

Early game, I had this dream of building bases all around the map. LOL, was that ever a pipe dream. Maybe by the time I turn 150 in real life.

I mean, like I think I have said in this Steam forum before, I have this love for grindy games or I am just a glutton for punishment, but this game takes it to an entirely different level.

I mean if I could ever finish one day with a sense of accomplishment. Like one day I will have a weapon of mass destruction that will incinerate flying wolves and bears who have gone insane, for miles in every direction. Or I could look at my base and say 'WOW, just look at that since last year!' Then I will be happy!

And yet, I love this game so much, I have spent more hours on it than every game on Steam, ever, since I started gaming in 2007. Like I said, I can never get enough self abuse, lol.
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CJBRODEY Feb 11 @ 5:51am 
Originally posted by hyperion:

... I am just a glutton for punishment, but this game takes it to an entirely different level.

I bought this game a few years back and it had a lot more grind than it is now. I left for awhile but when I came back just recently I see a better balance than before. This game is definitely a tuff one at first but in time it gets better and better.
It's all about experience . In the beginning you would have a problem with anything, but later you will have everything =) right now I have around 10 fridges full of vegetables of all kinds without growing them at all.
hyperion Feb 11 @ 3:57pm 
Originally posted by CJBRODEY:
Originally posted by hyperion:

... I am just a glutton for punishment, but this game takes it to an entirely different level.

I bought this game a few years back and it had a lot more grind than it is now. I left for awhile but when I came back just recently I see a better balance than before. This game is definitely a tuff one at first but in time it gets better and better.

It seems the opposite for me. I think it was 2017 when I first played it and it seems I remember it being 'less' grindy back then. I wish I could find my old save, but I lost it. The only save I could find from back then was one in which I was less progressed than I am now. I had 2 story base with lots of solar panels and wind turbines. Oh well, I'll maybe learn to stop running out of veggies one day and find enough lithium. Then maybe I will get somewhere.
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hyperion Feb 11 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by NFL_Aleque( poople pls ):
It's all about experience . In the beginning you would have a problem with anything, but later you will have everything =) right now I have around 10 fridges full of vegetables of all kinds without growing them at all.

Yeah, that is extremely impressive. How did you ever get enough lithium? I was out all day yesterday roaming that lake north of the mountains and only found 4 lithium. In comparison, I found 24 obsidian south of that area. So it seems a little unbalanced there. Do you have a secret for finding that ore?
hyperion Feb 11 @ 5:03pm 
I think I def made the right decision with the mining drill. Now I can make berry water if I ever find a blueberry!
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