Is there a better survival game than Subsistence???

[GamerGrub]

Tell us which one is better and why.

[Mohaje]

Subsistence is NOT A SURVIVAL GAME, and if you feel it is hard to survive it's because of HORRIBLE GAME DESIGN....!!!!

It's because of stupid ballancing, materials are everywhere, same goes for predators/animals, but everything is nerfed beyond comprehension, except for material need and hunger which is maxed out at a 1000% plus.

The reason Subsistence feels hard is because we spend the whole day, searching for boxes that don't contain what we need, because every kill rewards us scraps, the amouth of food needed to survive is insanity!

This game is hard for all the wrong reasons...!!! But it's NOT a survival game !!!!

If you want survival go play GREEN HELL, that is survival at it's best, learn to survive or just die over and over again, it's brutal.... Another good survial game is THE LONG DARK :)

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Originally posted by GamerGrub:

Tell us which one is better and why.

Subsistence is one of the easiest survival games but you need time and patience,
once you gain experience, the game is really very easy in every respect
in solo or multi mode it's a lot of fun, it's still being developed.
I'm sure you can do it
if not you can try Mist Survival, Sunkenland or Stranded Deep

[Elwood Blues]

This game is a good survival game and is difficult in the beginning. Once you get the hang of it, a base built, and the tactics for dealing with animals and the AI rogues and such, it is all about scavenging and exploring. Yes it is still in development so there are some things that are annoying. Like trying to find enough obsidian and lithium, and silicon whereas you should be able to mine it once you get a mining rig up. I am sure this will be fixed, but when you get your fish, or even your rabbit, stolen by an eagle...you will be enamored with this game. Its a gem, its just taking time to develop fully. Like stated previously....patience. As for which game is better....it depends on what you want or like. All survival games have something or two that is different from the rest. If you want a good survival game (Opinion) try Grounded....THAT is a fun game

[Sevenio]

8k plus hours on Rust.. I finally tried Subsistence. I uninstalled rust I have 436 hours on Subsistence now. For all the simps "Subsistence" The action or fact of maintaining or supporting oneself at a minimum level.
"the minimum income needed for subsistence". Imagine wasting your time crying about how to live in a survival genre and how it should cater to your socialist mentality. The game has not even been officially released but that does not take away from a masterpiece game still being refined.

[Rob_Boss]

I feel like there are better "survival" games out there, but this one is one of the best "base building" games, IMO. Haven't played them all, granted, but of what I have, I enjoy the building of this game, even if it's a daily grind.

[DarkFaceGlow]

This is a base-building, equipment-gathering/crafting game. It’s a grind unlike any other(which is why I haven’t played in awhile), but I’m also still a fan, hoping for more. Other than the grind, the combat feels too “loose”. Hunters ice skating and have needle thin hit-boxes. Rifle still sucks. Hard to explain. But the combat is one of the worst I’ve seen. I still have hope. I like CG. He gets too much grief, for being a one-man team. Moral of the story…..hard to call this the best survival game.

[RCLAC-14]

Originally posted by Rob Boss:

I feel like there are better "survival" games out there, but this one is one of the best "base building" games, IMO. Haven't played them all, granted, but of what I have, I enjoy the building of this game, even if it's a daily grind.

Only three sets (wood, glass and metal) with one of them being an upgrade of the first, missing shapes, no building or blueprint mode, almost no decorations or furniture...

Of course you could like the game and nobody could discuss your preferences, but to say the base building part is one of the best sound really weird, is like saying its predators ai is one of the best too

[FuBar]

"Scum"

[Cup of Joe ☕]

Originally posted by GamerGrub:

Is there a better survival game than Subsistence???
Tell us which one is better and why.

Hi 'GamerGrub' ,

The reason why you have had only handful of responses to your question , is because most SUBSISTENCE Customers no longer play the game , and most SUBSISTENCE Customers no longer participate in this Discussion board..

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Out of more than 542,000 games sold , fewer than 400 Players have on average , regularly played SUBSISTENCE over the past 12 months.

(link) https://vginsights.com/game/418030

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SUBSISTENCE is an 8 year old , discordant , illogical , shambles — running on an error-filled , Dead Game Engine❗

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SUBSISTENCE is written in Unreal Engine 3 UDK with DirectX9 API support , which has been permanently DISCONTINUED by the Intellectual Property Owners , and is NO LONGER UPDATED by AMD , Epic Games , Microsoft Windows , Nvidia , STEAM , and other Vendors.

In other words , as your system hardware & software receive updates , SUBSISTENCE's Game Engine , and its incorporated collaborative software (e.g., DirectX9 API, etc..) , does NOT!

NOTE: Unreal Engine 3 UDK is very-old & very-deficient , and is more likely to cause Player Errors , than compared to other more-modern , currently available , game engines.

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Better Quality Games With More-Modern Game Engines

• ARK: SURVIVAL EVOLVED series , and CONAN EXILES series , have arguably the 'BEST' build features & lighting choices in all of gaming — And both games have Expanded Game Settings Menus with complete Console Commands , 3rd Party Modding , and STEAM Workshop Support — Game Difficulty and most Game Settings are controlled by the Player , not the game's Developer.

• SCUM Supermax Open-World Survival series , is drop-dead 'GORGEOUS' — with Console Commands , Interactable NPC's , POI's , a Large Map , and a Video Game Economy — 3rd Party Modding , and STEAM Workshop Support is anticipated as the game's development reaches fruition.

• MEDIEVAL DYNASTY has Expanded Game Settings Menus with Interactable NPC's , POI's , Large Maps , a Video Game Economy , a Great Story-Line , and hundreds of Craftable , Gatherable , and Interactable Items (and growing) — Console Commands , 3rd Party Modding , and STEAM Workshop Support is anticipated as the game's development reaches fruition.

• THE HUNTER: CALL OF THE WILD (Honorable Mention) Is Easy to Learn , Highly Immersive , with (14) Beautiful Maps/Reserves , and (96) Different Animals — Arguably the Best Hunting Game available.

• SUBNAUTICA (Honorable Mention) Indie Game of the Year.

etc.., etc..

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In Addition To The Above

You should read the thousands-upon-thousands of SUBSISTENCE critical Customer Reviews , Player Discussion threads , and Player Feature Suggestions threads.

Example: "Petition: FIX THE DAMN GAME. Unsatisfied/Frustrated? Post here!"

(link) https://steamcommunity.com/app/418030/discussions/0/3716062978729056249/

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SUBSISTENCE had the potential to become a 100-million-dollar game — unfortunately this game has NEVER been under Professional or Realistic Development.❗

Good Luck & Regards

[weggles91]

I'll be honest I'm not sure I'd even call this a game. I enjoy coming into it for an hour or so sometimes but there is no progression, no reward, no goals etc. It's just a sandbox.

[Mohaje]

Originally posted by weggles91:

I'll be honest I'm not sure I'd even call this a game. I enjoy coming into it for an hour or so sometimes but there is no progression, no reward, no goals etc. It's just a sandbox.

A foul smelling sandbox filled to the brim with pointy glassshards, covered in mushy goop...!

Honestly the only reason we stick arround is a combination of us being too greedy to buy another game on steam and a tiny slither of hope that @ColdGames will change it for the better.... But this haven't happened in the now 8 years of early access, i sincerely doubt that it ever will

So much potential, wasted :(

[Elwood Blues]

Why the hate...if you don't like the game, uninstall and move on. Yeah, it has its issues, and I can name a few, but I like to jump on and putter and putz. It is a different mood when I am playing the game.
You all mentioned some different games...they have their moods as well. BUT when they incorporate the pay to play, it changes everything. PLUS, like Scum and a few others I have played, it becomes a job. You HAVE to log in every so many days otherwise all the work you put into your base is gone. PLUS in PVP, you can get raided and lose everything. Not like Fallout 76 where your base goes with you when you log off.
I like this game because you can play with friends. Your base will not go away or degrade if not online or even if you are online. It is as slow or as fast as you want. You can set the revenge attacks and random attacks. It like camping on your own....you just want to be left alone and do stuff. (Fish, Hunt, Build etc)
Yeah my biggest gripe is the mining of Obsidian, Silicone and Lithium...not enough...needs to be available in the mining rigs.
So, with all that said....put in constructive comments, not hate. If it pisses you off so much that the game is "Not Worthy" move on to something else. Like someone said, there is alot out there.

[Mohaje]

Originally posted by Elwood Blues:

Why the hate...if you don't like the game, uninstall and move on. Yeah, it has its issues, and I can name a few, but I like to jump on and putter and putz. It is a different mood when I am playing the game.
You all mentioned some different games...they have their moods as well. BUT when they incorporate the pay to play, it changes everything. PLUS, like Scum and a few others I have played, it becomes a job. You HAVE to log in every so many days otherwise all the work you put into your base is gone. PLUS in PVP, you can get raided and lose everything. Not like Fallout 76 where your base goes with you when you log off.
I like this game because you can play with friends. Your base will not go away or degrade if not online or even if you are online. It is as slow or as fast as you want. You can set the revenge attacks and random attacks. It like camping on your own....you just want to be left alone and do stuff. (Fish, Hunt, Build etc)
Yeah my biggest gripe is the mining of Obsidian, Silicone and Lithium...not enough...needs to be available in the mining rigs.
So, with all that said....put in constructive comments, not hate. If it pisses you off so much that the game is "Not Worthy" move on to something else. Like someone said, there is alot out there.

I love to hate, and if you love it so much you should give CG all your money so he can hire a good crew to finish this mess!

[Virago]

Originally posted by Mohaje:

you should give CG all your money so he can hire a good crew to finish this mess!

Seeing you having played 400+ hours of this mess is kind of laughable.

[Mohaje]

Originally posted by Virago:

Seeing you having played 400+ hours of this mess is kind of laughable.

Seeing you having played 1234+ hours of this mess is even more laughable...!!!