Looking for a new survival game

[Splat]

Hello everyone.

In 2013 i decided to buy and play DayZ, i never had played a survival game before that so it was somewhat a trial by fire, plus i had freinds that also wanted to try the game. As some of you might know DayZ was in a very early development stage back then and it kept that way for quite some time, the game wasn't perfect, hackers, bugs so many bugs but it comes with early access right?

One thing that i will never forget about DayZ was how intense it could be much of it because of the PvP but i loved the sounds i that game it was really immersive.
With time my friends, and that's something that i gained thanks to DayZ was to meet people from all over the world and many of them i keep in contact with and we play other games together, but with time those friends one by one stopped playing DayZ much of it cause by burn out of the game being in this forever stage of early access and taking a long time to introduce new updates and content.

One day i realized i was alone in DayZ, all my friends gone and i slowly lost interest as well and moved on to other games, other experiences, i always tried to look for the next big survival for me, i tried Miscreated sadly i think that the development for that game reached a end and the devs quit the project i think, i tried H1Z1, 7 days to die, Rust and maybe a few others but none managed to get my attention.

I do like survival games i don't mind if they have zombies or not or other enemies, i would love that it had some kind of foe or several types of dangers to us the player.

I looked at Subsistence a couple of times to be fair i never took a chance at it because well since DayZ it has been so far an impossible taks to find a game that would give me that hitch again.
For the ones that have played this game for a while now even years how is it? If i undertansd correctly the game is being developed by 1 person only so i imagine that updates aren't very frequent? Is it still being developed or is this like Miscreated where the game is still on and possible to buy but the dev has abandoned the project?

If you have experience with survival games and have tried your fair share of them if not Subsistence are there other games that you could advise me to check out? I have heard of few others like Mist Survival and The Infected or even one that came out recently called Sunkenland...but again my issue is to take that first step and invest myself in any of these because i don't know anything about these games, i have been out of the loop for a long time.

I thank you for your time reading this and sorry for the long post.

[Taiwanenes]

There are no real survival games on STEAM, they are all about fighting zombies. Real survival is the collection and utilization of resources, not fighting zombies every day, they are very different.

The closest survival game is currently Subsistence, which is better than the others, but each of its bullets is precious and will not be liked by ordinary people.

[Zuleica]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Taiwanenes:

There are no real survival games on STEAM, they are all about fighting zombies. Real survival is the collection and utilization of resources, not fighting zombies every day, they are very different.

The closest survival game is currently Subsistence, which is better than the others, but each of its bullets is precious and will not be liked by ordinary people.

I've gotten a LOT of entertainment out of Subsistence, under one penny per hour for entertainment now. I think that's a pretty good return on a small investment.

There is one other survival game that is more about what you describe and that's Survisland. However it seems to be going through a VERY slow remake at the moment so not sure I'd recommend it.

[Taiwanenes]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zuleica:

There is one other survival game that is more about what you describe and that's Survisland. However it seems to be going through a VERY slow remake at the moment so not sure I'd recommend it.

Thanks for telling me about Survisland, I noticed it a long time ago.

1. It is a single-player game, so you can imagine that it must simplify the survival factor.
2. Its food will not be corrupted like Green Hell.
3. It has no weather, and the most important thing for survival is how to survive the winter.
4. It is very similar to Stranded Deep, but there is no threat from animals. So you can only play building a house, without the fun of exploration.
5. A very important point. I haven’t seen his update log, so I guess development has stopped.

[Splat]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Taiwanenes:

There are no real survival games on STEAM, they are all about fighting zombies. Real survival is the collection and utilization of resources, not fighting zombies every day, they are very different.

The closest survival game is currently Subsistence, which is better than the others, but each of its bullets is precious and will not be liked by ordinary people.

I don't think that the real or good survival games are the ones with zombies in them, i think other elements are involved to make a good survival, resource gathering, depth, world exploration, now I love big maps or worlds ready to explore but that exploration must feel that it's worth it to take our time to explore the map, i love games where the wild life and nature can be a threat and then if it has some more dangerous foes like other human npc's or monsters of some kind then i say bring it on.

I believe that games in early access have a huge rough diamond in their hands and by this i mean that they can always improve what one day will become the final product or game, sadly many early access games out there end up by not achieving it's full potential or the devs simply abandon them...I have seen a few of them going down that road, now money isn't an issue for me fortunately but i also don't like to waste it, that's why i have been very careful with the games i buy especially the ones labeled as early access.

Last night when watching a few videos about Subsistence i noticed that some people in forums like this one or comments were saying that the game doesn't get regualr updates or that they grow far apart from each other and this distance seems to have increased over time so i wonder how much interest is there from people playing it and more importantly from the dev itself, is the game getting content in the future is there a roadmap or a idea of one?

I also saw other games like or similar to Subsistence at least they appeared on youtube feed and Steam and those were The Infected, Mist Survival, Survive the Nights and another one called HumanitZ i also wanted to mention Sunkenland but again i have been out of the loop for a very long time so i don't know which survival game is worth investing time and how serious the devs are as to try to achieve the best for their product and pushing it forward.

[Jaunitta 🌸]

My 2 cents on survival games
You mentioned games I was going to mention.
When looking for survival games it really is on you to get a feel about them.
What I look for and the games that gave me what I wanted were surival games that I could customize turn off what I didnt want.
I love base building so dont like it everytime there is a major update it requires a new game. Subsistence has never had this.
Subsistence my top fav game to go back to, been with it for 2500 hours if you love base building. Very simplified game beautiful seasons and we can turn off the au hunters. It has a lot of content to sustain you for a long time. depends if the player wants instant gratification.
Subsistence is the kind of the game to get you thinking about what you want to do with it.
There is no Story.
So start designing.
I have spent a ton of time building a bridge across the whole map. Stuff like that. Its enjoyable and peaceful.
A new base on evey place in the main areas on the map.
My videos are on youtube.
LE and Raw have joind the club for unbelievable videos of what can be done for fun.

Survisland. Naw its just too boring a Game as mechanics too clunky.
I also played it very slow game.

Most survival games we can turm off the monsters and enjoy the game if you like this I can recomend these games i played.
Grab on special.

Green Hell is a very good game. One of the best for immersiveness speaking for myself..
You can turn off natives and customize your experience.
Played around 1220 hours been playing it since 2018.
Very immersive hard at first then gets easier.
Coop is great fun solo or single. The jungle is beautiful.

The Forest customizable great fun
Sons of the Forest loved this game we can use the cheatstick to spawn stuff.

The Infected. Very customizable. Enjoyable and can play on god mode. I love this game for the come back to. We lose our bases with big updates when new game required old saves nolonger work. But such a good game just for fun.. I just rebuild using screenshots :)

The Long Dark. has a story very nice game.
Valheim great game we can also use cmd consol to play in god mode. Great exploring loved it with friends.
Rust good game.
Mist Survival also not bad. But doesnt give me that want to play it and come back.

Hopefully they will give you something to consider on youtube.

[Splat]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Jaunitta 🌸:

My 2 cents on survival games
You mentioned games I was going to mention.
When looking for survival games it really is on you to get a feel about them.
What I look for and the games that gave me what I wanted were surival games that I could customize turn off what I didnt want.
I love base building so dont like it everytime there is a major update it requires a new game. Subsistence has never had this.
Subsistence my top fav game to go back to, been with it for 2500 hours if you love base building. Very simplified game beautiful seasons and we can turn off the au hunters. It has a lot of content to sustain you for a long time. depends if the player wants instant gratification.
Subsistence is the kind of the game to get you thinking about what you want to do with it.
There is no Story.
So start designing.
I have spent a ton of time building a bridge across the whole map. Stuff like that. Its enjoyable and peaceful.
A new base on evey place in the main areas on the map.
My videos are on youtube.
LE and Raw have joind the club for unbelievable videos of what can be done for fun.

Survisland. Naw its just too boring a Game as mechanics too clunky.
I also played it very slow game.

Most survival games we can turm off the monsters and enjoy the game if you like this I can recomend these games i played.
Grab on special.

Green Hell is a very good game. One of the best for immersiveness speaking for myself..
You can turn off natives and customize your experience.
Played around 1220 hours been playing it since 2018.
Very immersive hard at first then gets easier.
Coop is great fun solo or single. The jungle is beautiful.

The Forest customizable great fun
Sons of the Forest loved this game we can use the cheatstick to spawn stuff.

The Infected. Very customizable. Enjoyable and can play on god mode. I love this game for the come back to. We lose our bases with big updates when new game required old saves nolonger work. But such a good game just for fun.. I just rebuild using screenshots :)

The Long Dark. has a story very nice game.
Valheim great game we can also use cmd consol to play in god mode. Great exploring loved it with friends.
Rust good game.
Mist Survival also not bad. But doesnt give me that want to play it and come back.

Hopefully they will give you something to consider on youtube.

Hello @Jaunitta and thank you so much for this reply.
You already replied to one question i had and that was deciding (if i get to that point) between Mist Survival or the Infected and it seems that people in general prefer the Infected, and much of it seems to be because the Infected feels like a better game when compared to the Mist Survival.

I have Valheim, it is a great game but I'm looking for a game that could provide some intense moments or even scary at times, what i look for in survival games are things like resource harvesting, base building yes but i don't go super hardcore or with a lot of complexity when building :) i love to explore the map and if it is a big map the better with verticality or some form of it like we can go down in bunkers, mines, explore caves and so on, crafting i love it, scavenging the world or enemies to build better parts for the base or better weapons. I love games where nature and wild life can cause problems, i can hunt, fish and so on. I would love to get to be able to find or come across bosses or world bosses that can spawn and reward players by taking them down (if the game doesn't have bosses it's perfetly fine).

The thing that has me looking around so much for a good survival game recently is that it has been a very long long time since i played DayZ, to be honest i installed it again a few days ago but it didn't gave me the feel that once did so i think me and DayZ are done i had awesome times in that game, i have met people in 2013 that to this day i can call friends but i'm looking for somethig new and good or that has potential to be very good but again it all depends if the devs want that for the game.

I also discovered a game called Survive the Nights i think i have heard of it before and that i even had it on Steam at some point but believe that the game had a rough start but seems to have improved maybe?

[Jaunitta 🌸]

Consider the EA Sons of the Forest or the Forest.
SOTF has some harvesting building up to us cave exploring that scary.
https://www.theguardian.com/games/2023/mar/10/sons-of-the-forest-cannibal-survival-game
https://store.steampowered.com/app/242760/The_Forest/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1326470/Sons_Of_The_Forest/

[Splat]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Jaunitta 🌸:

Consider the EA Sons of the Forest or the Forest.
SOTF has some harvesting building up to us cave exploring that scary.
https://www.theguardian.com/games/2023/mar/10/sons-of-the-forest-cannibal-survival-game
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1326470/Sons_Of_The_Forest/

I don't know why but those forest games never were my jam.

[Virago]

Sons of the forest is very immersive. It has the best weather system in any game I've played.

[Jaunitta 🌸]

2o17 game. Bit like 7days to die. Thanks for tip never heard of that one.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/541300/Survive_the_Nights/

[Taiwanenes]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Splat:

Last night when watching a few videos about Subsistence i noticed that some people in forums like this one or comments were saying that the game doesn't get regualr updates or that they grow far apart from each other and this distance seems to have increased over time so i wonder how much interest is there from people playing it and more importantly from the dev itself, is the game getting content in the future is there a roadmap or a idea of one?

Why do survival games always have to fight zombies?

These are the game rules set by Unreal Engine, which were formulated after 1998. Until now, zombie modules are almost free for independent developers to use. Therefore, all games on STEAM are zombie-fighting games.

Zombie games will be the poison of games in the future, and now it is the zombie apocalypse. You can see that the zombies on STEAM are accompanied by a dark picture, because it shortens the development time, as long as all the darkness gives you a gun, no content is needed , collect the money next...

Everyone who holds a gun is a hero, a stupid hero. He can't live without the gun, and he doesn't even know how to live, so I call him a "monkey hero". It's the server that decides how the bullets fly, and he He is only responsible for dancing.

Computer games must undergo major reforms. I know Sony has discussed how much longer zombies can be played? It seems that there is only discussion, but no answer.

It takes at least 2 years to develop a game. I can't blame any independent developer. If it were you and everyone was fighting zombies, would you be willing to spend 2 years developing different games? Maybe you will succeed, but you can't afford failure. .

So I support Subsistence, "It's not a zombie game, it's a good game." (It's best not to use Unreal 5 engine for development, because I don't want to still fight zombies after upgrading the graphics card.)

[Cup of Joe ☕]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Splat:

"i have been out of the loop for a long time."

Hi 'Splat' ,

Take a hard look at 'SCUM' — Solo, Multiplayer, Highly Customizable !

(link) https://store.steampowered.com/app/513710/SCUM/

"SCUM aims to evolve the multiplayer open world survival game with unprecedented levels of character customization, control and progression, where knowledge and skills are the ultimate weapons for long-term survival."

SCUM has had more than 300 Patches & Updates since STEAM Early Access Launch on August 29, 2018 — the most recent being October 31st — very dedicated development team !

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"I Played the Most Beautiful Multiplayer Survival Game Ever" — BlondeDonGaming Channell YouTube

(link) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjv6m7K1438

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Good Luck & Regards.

[Pyrohydra]

Vintage Story has a strong focus on survival. Weather, food and temperature have a strong focus and having enough food to make it through winter. Not available on steam yet though,

https://youtu.be/NJjifFq1NGY?si=f9yNXbvtLSgxqts-

[Virago]

This looks like minecraft. Is this a joke?

[ENOWONMAI]

The thing about Subsistence is that except when you start (you will die a lot) it is not really a survival game, since once you have established yourself it becomes a sandbox that gives you free reign on what you want to accomplish. Also updates are now dropping every 6 months with small teasers of what is coming sprinkled in between.

+1 for Green Hell it is a fun game with a different vibe than the usual survival game.

I would also recommend:

Project Zomboid top down view and offers 100% customization, also pretty hard until you know what you are doing.

No One Survived still needs a lot of work but it is slowly getting there.

Deadside if you want light survival/base building with super intense combat against military AI this one is for you. The whole map is hostile territory with patrols on the roads and actual missions you can complete.

Avoid SCUM at all cost, that game is a joke and 100% grind, plus they have been removing content from the game because of major performance issues:
- animals, replaced by a broken hunting mini game
- vehicles, there were planes, boats, bikes, trucks, cars all gone and replaced by 2 modular cars, if you find one you must push it to a trader to buy an engine!

Then they added the following game breaking mechanics:
- fame system whereas if your level is not high enough you cannot purchase anything from traders = no car engine for you newbie
- fog to the main PoI because of rendering issues but you now can't seen anything around you anymore
- hand abrasion, you get cuts and wounds from looting and need constant healing
- fatigue, you must rest/sleep in game(!!!) or your character will die from exhaustion