Subsistence

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So, I have always played on easy mode, since I am more of a relaxed gamer type, but recently I decided ok, lets do this right, lets turn the game to normal mode, and turn the hunters on. So, I noticed the animals aggro range is a touch longer now, and they will chase you further, but to be honest other than that the biggest thing I noticed is that materials are just harder to get. The animals are still not that hard to avoid. My question is, why would you want the materials to be harder to find? I love grinding, I have never had a issue grinding in a game, but I have never ever said " man I wish the grind was worse". Am I missing something important here?
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niemandel Jul 19, 2020 @ 8:13am 
It's a survival game. Materials being harder to get makes survival more difficult ergo higher difficulty level.

If you think materials are scarce on normal mode you should try hardcore. I almost died of dehydration once because i couldn't find enough scrap metal to craft a canteen. That should give you an example of the correlation between loot frequency and survival.
Snapps Evolved Jul 19, 2020 @ 8:27am 
Originally posted by niemandel:
It's a survival game. Materials being harder to get makes survival more difficult ergo higher difficulty level.

If you think materials are scarce on normal mode you should try hardcore. I almost died of dehydration once because i couldn't find enough scrap metal to craft a canteen. That should give you an example of the correlation between loot frequency and survival.
Yeah, I see what you mean, I guess I am just more used to playing on the harder lvl difficulties being more rewarding, not less rewarding. I just can't find a upside. Is the Hunter Loot better on the harder difficulty??
niemandel Jul 19, 2020 @ 8:32am 
Originally posted by Snapps Evolved:
Yeah, I see what you mean, I guess I am just more used to playing on the harder lvl difficulties being more rewarding, not less rewarding. I just can't find a upside. Is the Hunter Loot better on the harder difficulty??

Nothing is better. Everything is worse. That's how difficulty works :P

The reward is in learning to survive those harsh conditions and then bragging about it on the forums, not in material possessions.
Snapps Evolved Jul 19, 2020 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by niemandel:
Originally posted by Snapps Evolved:
Yeah, I see what you mean, I guess I am just more used to playing on the harder lvl difficulties being more rewarding, not less rewarding. I just can't find a upside. Is the Hunter Loot better on the harder difficulty??

Nothing is better. Everything is worse. That's how difficulty works :P

The reward is in learning to survive those harsh conditions and then bragging about it on the forums, not in material possessions.
haha, yeah man, I bet you would make the perfect employee:) " You want to make my job more difficult, and pay me less money " Sure I'll do that :) P
niemandel Jul 19, 2020 @ 8:47am 
I don't know about you but i for one don't get paid to play video games.

If i play a game on max difficulty is because i want a challenge. If the game isn't challenging enough i get bored.
If you want to play the game for the loot and the crafting just stick to the lower difficulty settings. That's why they are there. Different strokes for different folks.
Snapps Evolved Jul 19, 2020 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by niemandel:
I don't know about you but i for one don't get paid to play video games.

If i play a game on max difficulty is because i want a challenge. If the game isn't challenging enough i get bored.
If you want to play the game for the loot and the crafting just stick to the lower difficulty settings. That's why they are there. Different strokes for different folks.
True,, thanks for your time my friend
ColdGames  [developer] Jul 19, 2020 @ 9:18am 
Hi. There is actually no difference in loot quantities between easy and normal modes (there is on hardcore). Normal has more predators than easy, they are of higher levels, players start with less health/stamina, there are more hunter squads, hunters do more damage, winters are more harsh (and summers). Predators have higher agro ranges. You cannot reload your previous save on death as you can on easy.

There are too many more differences to list, but they don't include loot quantities.

Hope that helps. Cheers
Snapps Evolved Jul 19, 2020 @ 9:29am 
Cool , thanks, I was just curious if there was a reason for playing on the higher lvl difficulty. Now I see its just more of a personal choice than a reward thing. To each their own...
Ayahuasca Jul 19, 2020 @ 1:12pm 
Originally posted by niemandel:
Originally posted by Snapps Evolved:
Yeah, I see what you mean, I guess I am just more used to playing on the harder lvl difficulties being more rewarding, not less rewarding. I just can't find a upside. Is the Hunter Loot better on the harder difficulty??

Nothing is better. Everything is worse. That's how difficulty works :P

The reward is in learning to survive those harsh conditions and then bragging about it on the forums, not in material possessions.


lotta gamers do not give a toot about bragging about their big egos......and your statement makes zero sense....just sayin
Akeel Jul 20, 2020 @ 3:48pm 
My question is: Are there less plant and crate spawns when you first start the game than there are later in the game, regardless of what mode your playing. Loot quantities sounds like the number of items inside crates/bags.
Last edited by Akeel; Jul 20, 2020 @ 3:51pm
3Ddeath Jul 21, 2020 @ 11:24am 
I get the need for survival and loot should be hard as it is, but lets not limit peoples creativity in building to a 1x1 or 2x2 home unless you want to spend a few days doing nothing but chopping wood.

Let an avg person build a bigger place! home building materials could be half the price, Id spend the resources! You could balance it by making insulation more important or some construction benefits.
my 2 cents.

note, I'm playing this on single player, its rough not having the extra hands to help build, can be balanced by number of players too


Last edited by 3Ddeath; Jul 21, 2020 @ 11:26am
niemandel Jul 21, 2020 @ 11:38am 
The game is supposed to last more than 2 days. You can build stuff over time. I'm in day 50 on hardcore where resources are scarce and i have a pretty big house.

If you are handed everything on a silver plate in day1 what else is there to do? You're supposed to work for it.

I don't want a survival game where you get everything in day1 and there's nothing else to do but admire the scenery. A scenery admiring simulator sounds hella boring.
Last edited by niemandel; Jul 21, 2020 @ 11:54am
3Ddeath Jul 21, 2020 @ 12:26pm 
I do get it... you need the parts of you struggling to get resources and while that is happening or you are coming back with the loot you get attacked or something happens, that's what gives it the core of this game.

I guess that's why upgrading materials of your home is a good way to balance it, as resources get easier to obtain you get stronger materials you want to use.
Mattlow152 Jul 21, 2020 @ 12:34pm 
Imo again this is an easy fix, by adding loot sliders and other adjustable settings players can adjust their game to their liking those gamers that wish to make life easier can and those who like a tougher/ more grindy game can also get what they want.
3Ddeath Jul 21, 2020 @ 12:52pm 
Originally posted by Mattlow152:
Imo again this is an easy fix, by adding loot sliders and other adjustable settings players can adjust their game to their liking those gamers that wish to make life easier can and those who like a tougher/ more grindy game can also get what they want.

the only challenge with that I see... you're new, you play the game for 5 seconds, you are like WTF and increase the loot by 900%, you play the game, get bored, leave a negative review and move on.
It might be a harder fix cause we all want the easy way out but we also all want a challenge, only when you're experienced with the game the option would 100% be super good to have.

Anyway, its just an interesting problem, Ark was able to do it really well but it might be cause the game had the content to support that, not sure.
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