Map of the caves?

[[HTP] Tiomat]

So have played a bunch now (~300 hrs) and was pretty comfortable going into the caves before the last couple of updates. Never got lost and it wasn't a big deal. Then the first update to the caves came around with that one new section (where you could jump off a ledge into a pool or walk down a long tunnel into the new area). Still not a big deal. Also not a big reason to go down there other then when running low on crystals.

Then the latest update... Managed to find the lava caves from the main cave section on east lake. Okay no big deal... then from there found the section of caves from the recent update... but couldn't translate that into a path back to the main east cave... had to go back through the lava cave to eventually find my way back to the main caves and then back to east lake. I think my buddy and I were down there for 45+ minutes that day stumbling around.

So anyone have any maps, even rough ones of the caves?

[ice_freezer]

First time I descended into lava caves it was a bit harder then I expected, cause Cave Hunters can sometimes spawn around you and gang up on you in no time. So my gear was pretty battered. I managed to get to the opposite side of the caves and sighed with relief only to realize a few moments later I'd left my scooba diving gear in a chest on the opposite side and didn't have any on this side of the cave complex. So I had to descend back and cross the lava caves again. With a broken bulletproof vest, pistol and shotgun, with only a recurve bow I somehow managed to fend off up to five hunters at one time, that had spawned above me on a rock and finally made it to my shack with chests, water and healing items depleted. What an experience. That said, I think memorizing the route is totally doable if you go back and forth a couple of times.

[Keyser Soze]

there has been two cave systems in this game for a long time now... the lava caves are new and they connected the two previous cave systems.

it's now possible to travel from the east lake to the west without being on the surface at all.

the maps of the original cave systems hasn't changed aside from adding in the short tunnel systems that now lead to the lava section.

both original zones divided into two sections, each section has a rouge group and a bat that spawns into their respective zones.

so if you want to go from one lake to the next, you need to travel through 2 sets of rouges and bats, then the lava caves, then 2 more sets of rouges and bats before you get to the other cave entrance/exit.

the easiest cave system to navigate in my opinion is the cave system under the east lake, the division between zone 1 and zone 2 are easy to spot... because the zones are separated from each other by the set of lava tubes/tunnels you have to go through to get to the other half of the system.

room 1 of the east lake system is a large diamond shaped room the gradually slops downhill to a pool that leads you to the lava tube/tunnels.

room 2 in the east system is more of a flat disk shaped room with the entrance to the lava zone on the left side of the room (before you get to the mysterious fenced off golden cave).

the west lake system is a bit harder to navigate... it's divided by the area where there is a large slanted flat green rock leaning up against the wall.

room 1 in the west system is a big disk (similar to room 2 on the east lake system)

room 2 in the west system is a giant circular tunnel which no matter what direction you go you always wind up running around in a big circle back to the green slanted rock.

lastly the lava caves section should be thought of as a bowl shaped room that runs around that huge lava pool in the center with long rooms that connect that bowl shaped room to the original cave sections.

the long rooms are across the bowl from each other... so if you want to cross the lava section, you need to just run tot he other side of the large bowl shaped room and you should be able to find the other tunnel section.

to fully "settle" in the cave system you should start by building a shack at the entrance pool of each system ( a safe spot to defend against cave rouges) and at least one platform with a chest at the entrances of the lava cave section on both sides (where you can store protein bars, fruits, water bottles, etc...)

i also built a platform and crate in the bowl shaped room to help me easier locate the tunnels from the lava room.

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For what you need a caves map ? caves are so little,,,

[Keyser Soze]

Originally posted by ⋆⋆⋆:

For what you need a caves map ? caves are so little,,,

the caves are deceiving, when you first make it down there they seem way bigger than they actually are.

but like you said... they are small and easy to navigate as soon as you figure out your bearings.

i remember back to my first time into the west lake system, i wound up traveling around that back "doughnut" section more times than i care to admit before i noticed the big green slanted rock was repeating.

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Originally posted by Keyser Soze:

Originally posted by ⋆⋆⋆:

For what you need a caves map ? caves are so little,,,

the caves are deceiving, when you first make it down there they seem way bigger than they actually are.

but like you said... they are small and easy to navigate as soon as you figure out your bearings.

i remember back to my first time into the west lake system, i wound up traveling around that back "doughnut" section more times than i care to admit before i noticed the big green slanted rock was repeating.

you're right its easy, the caves are small and no need map,,

[Akeel]

Originally posted by Keyser Soze:

there has been two cave systems in this game for a long time now... the lava caves are new and they connected the two previous cave systems.

it's now possible to travel from the east lake to the west without being on the surface at all.

the maps of the original cave systems hasn't changed aside from adding in the short tunnel systems that now lead to the lava section.

both original zones divided into two sections, each section has a rouge group and a bat that spawns into their respective zones.

so if you want to go from one lake to the next, you need to travel through 2 sets of rouges and bats, then the lava caves, then 2 more sets of rouges and bats before you get to the other cave entrance/exit.

the easiest cave system to navigate in my opinion is the cave system under the east lake, the division between zone 1 and zone 2 are easy to spot... because the zones are separated from each other by the set of lava tubes/tunnels you have to go through to get to the other half of the system.

room 1 of the east lake system is a large diamond shaped room the gradually slops downhill to a pool that leads you to the lava tube/tunnels.

room 2 in the east system is more of a flat disk shaped room with the entrance to the lava zone on the left side of the room (before you get to the mysterious fenced off golden cave).

the west lake system is a bit harder to navigate... it's divided by the area where there is a large slanted flat green rock leaning up against the wall.

room 1 in the west system is a big disk (similar to room 2 on the east lake system)

room 2 in the west system is a giant circular tunnel which no matter what direction you go you always wind up running around in a big circle back to the green slanted rock.

lastly the lava caves section should be thought of as a bowl shaped room that runs around that huge lava pool in the center with long rooms that connect that bowl shaped room to the original cave sections.

the long rooms are across the bowl from each other... so if you want to cross the lava section, you need to just run tot he other side of the large bowl shaped room and you should be able to find the other tunnel section.

to fully "settle" in the cave system you should start by building a shack at the entrance pool of each system ( a safe spot to defend against cave rouges) and at least one platform with a chest at the entrances of the lava cave section on both sides (where you can store protein bars, fruits, water bottles, etc...)

i also built a platform and crate in the bowl shaped room to help me easier locate the tunnels from the lava room.

In this case the description of the caves does not help me to navigate through them. I admit that I have limited orientation skills, if you know the layout that well. Instead of a map or basic information, perhaps a directional guide would be more helpful, something like: Once at the bottom of the climbing wall go to to room 1 by walking North or South or whatever, then it becomes easier to simply walk in the opposite direction to get back to the starting point. Now that would be helpful, at least to me.

[Seiko]

I find them fairly easy after being down there often enough but to begin with I used the maze technique and just picked say the right hand wall and followed it all the way so to trace your steps you turn around and follow the left hand wall back the way you came in.

[LE]

If you get lost easily you could throw down a stairs a distance apart that show you the way in and out by the way you face the stairs when you set them. Just something can do if you tend to get lost easily. You can't build in the Lava cave area

[Original-Pauper]

Originally posted by Akeel:

In this case the description of the caves does not help me to navigate through them. I admit that I have limited orientation skills, if you know the layout that well. Instead of a map or basic information, perhaps a directional guide would be more helpful, something like: Once at the bottom of the climbing wall go to to room 1 by walking North or South or whatever, then it becomes easier to simply walk in the opposite direction to get back to the starting point. Now that would be helpful, at least to me.

I can help you with the cave system in the Large NW Lake.

Entry Level - from the pool you move up and left. There is a small corridor on the right not too far from the entry pool. Keep hugging the left side to get to the middle.

Middle - The middle is very easily verified by the large slanted rock that leans against the cave wall. From here, the cave makes a big loop in either direction. The lava caves are accessed at the back of this large loop.

I need some help with the East Lake cave cuz I can't seem to do anything but run into dead ends.

[Akeel]

Thanks Original-Pauper, making notes.

[c.jackharkness]

why the hell arent you guys building cabins down there? wall off areas with doors to hide behind or segment . idk makes life easier.

[c.jackharkness]

even if you go down with just 2 foundations , use them to mark the 2 ways in and out . make them really high until you feel confident navigating

[Original-Pauper]

Originally posted by c.jackharkness:

why the hell arent you guys building cabins down there? wall off areas with doors to hide behind or segment . idk makes life easier.

I have a small cabin in both cave entrances for protection from hunters. Placing a foundation as a marker is a good idea. Not sure why that hadn't occurred to me. Thanks for the idea.

[G-Gamer]

Originally posted by HTP Tiomat:

So have played a bunch now (~300 hrs) and was pretty comfortable going into the caves before the last couple of updates. Never got lost and it wasn't a big deal. Then the first update to the caves came around with that one new section (where you could jump off a ledge into a pool or walk down a long tunnel into the new area). Still not a big deal. Also not a big reason to go down there other then when running low on crystals.

Then the latest update... Managed to find the lava caves from the main cave section on east lake. Okay no big deal... then from there found the section of caves from the recent update... but couldn't translate that into a path back to the main east cave... had to go back through the lava cave to eventually find my way back to the main caves and then back to east lake. I think my buddy and I were down there for 45+ minutes that day stumbling around.

So anyone have any maps, even rough ones of the caves?

the caves are too small for a cave map to be needed

[Akeel]

G-Gamer: " The caves are too small for a cave map to be needed ".
To make a statement like that is not very helpful, and I will take it as your opinion but it does
not take into consideration that my orientation skills are crap and that help or hints, to give and receive is the reason I am on this Forum.