Subsistence

Subsistence

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RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2017년 6월 14일 오후 2시 15분
Cant find any loot boxes, How to get nails?
Got a foundation down, its day 3 now and no boxes spawning with nails, just food and ammo, I need 2 m ore nails for a wall, getting a bit tired of running in circles, dying by ninja bears, because i cant find a single loot spawn
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Zuleica 2017년 6월 14일 오후 2시 23분 
On easy and normal
Modes boxes/bags (not the locked ones) spawn in groups of 5 all in fairly close proximity. Nails are most often in the wooden box loot table. Cover more ground and try locations with mostly bare ground such as the NE side of the map. I can typically open about 25-40 each ingame day if that's all I'm doing so not sure why you're having issues.

In hard core they spawn in groups of two with far less in each.
RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2017년 6월 14일 오후 2시 28분 
Zuleica님이 먼저 게시:
On easy and normal
Modes boxes/bags (not the locked ones) spawn in groups of 5 all in fairly close proximity. Nails are most often in the wooden box loot table. Cover more ground and try locations with mostly bare ground such as the NE side of the map. I can typically open about 25-40 each ingame day if that's all I'm doing so not sure why you're having issues.

In hard core they spawn in groups of two with far less in each.


I am finding boxes, just ammo boxes everywhere, Only 1 wood crate with nails, all are either food or ammo,


Also is there a way to craft nails or only loot? Because base building is going to be hell with this nail issue
Judderz 2017년 6월 14일 오후 2시 44분 
there are many loot boxes it is just a case of running around, as for making nails you can once you have a workbench but as it stands its easier to find them in boxes.

if you have just started playing the beginning is the hardest part to get established but once you got a basic building up it starts to get a lil easier with finding loot.

hope this helps
good luck
00 Critical 2017년 6월 14일 오후 3시 02분 
I seem to see stuff in waves... some days I can get nearly 100 nails and others not a one.... good luck:)
RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2017년 6월 14일 오후 3시 13분 
00 Critical님이 먼저 게시:
I seem to see stuff in waves... some days I can get nearly 100 nails and others not a one.... good luck:)



Yeah literally after I made this post I got a box with like 20 nails in it, as if to say "liar, you got nails here!" Now I need scrap metal again lol. Man the grind is real!
RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2017년 6월 14일 오후 3시 13분 
Judderz™님이 먼저 게시:
there are many loot boxes it is just a case of running around, as for making nails you can once you have a workbench but as it stands its easier to find them in boxes.

if you have just started playing the beginning is the hardest part to get established but once you got a basic building up it starts to get a lil easier with finding loot.

hope this helps
good luck


thx
Zuleica 2017년 6월 14일 오후 5시 22분 
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00 Critical님이 먼저 게시:
I seem to see stuff in waves... some days I can get nearly 100 nails and others not a one.... good luck:)



Yeah literally after I made this post I got a box with like 20 nails in it, as if to say "liar, you got nails here!" Now I need scrap metal again lol. Man the grind is real!

After playing Korean games like Black Desert Online I do t find this a grind at all!

I think it's how you go about it. If you set out with a goal of collecting some amount a specific mat then that indeed becomes a grind. If you go about each day focused on survival and varying how you spend your time then things like picking plants and looting boxes become ancilliary and you'll find eventually you have more of everything than you can use. Doing this it isn't so much a grind.
RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2017년 6월 14일 오후 5시 27분 
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Yeah literally after I made this post I got a box with like 20 nails in it, as if to say "liar, you got nails here!" Now I need scrap metal again lol. Man the grind is real!

After playing Korean games like Black Desert Online I do t find this a grind at all!

I think it's how you go about it. If you set out with a goal of collecting some amount a specific mat then that indeed becomes a grind. If you go about each day focused on survival and varying how you spend your time then things like picking plants and looting boxes become ancilliary and you'll find eventually you have more of everything than you can use. Doing this it isn't so much a grind.


I love BDO and Diablo3, but thats a different kind of grind. I mean finding the needed resources is grindy as sin.

I spent a 3 hour session running back and forth, and didnt get my 2x 2 fully done. I got enough ammo for world war 3

I got enough food to start a good will.

I got enough wood to keep the Playboy Mansion Bunnys happy

I finally got about 40 nails saved.

I got enough fiber its not even funny.

I have zero scrap metal.


I do understand the game is intended to be a struggle, I just think the base building aspect, which I do love, on easy, should be a bit easier to find the required resources. I hate to see normal and hard, lol

But still a fun game either way, and totally different kinda grind from BDO. BDO is awesome, i bought it when it hit NA, long before steam release
Zuleica 2017년 6월 14일 오후 5시 34분 
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Zuleica님이 먼저 게시:

After playing Korean games like Black Desert Online I do t find this a grind at all!

I think it's how you go about it. If you set out with a goal of collecting some amount a specific mat then that indeed becomes a grind. If you go about each day focused on survival and varying how you spend your time then things like picking plants and looting boxes become ancilliary and you'll find eventually you have more of everything than you can use. Doing this it isn't so much a grind.


I love BDO and Diablo3, but thats a different kind of grind. I mean finding the needed resources is grindy as sin.

I spent a 3 hour session running back and forth, and didnt get my 2x 2 fully done. I got enough ammo for world war 3

I got enough food to start a good will.

I got enough wood to keep the Playboy Mansion Bunnys happy

I finally got about 40 nails saved.

I got enough fiber its not even funny.

I have zero scrap metal.


I do understand the game is intended to be a struggle, I just think the base building aspect, which I do love, on easy, should be a bit easier to find the required resources. I hate to see normal and hard, lol

But still a fun game either way, and totally different kinda grind from BDO. BDO is awesome, i bought it when it hit NA, long before steam release

I ditched BDO when I tried to breed a tier 8 horse with stables full of 30 tier 6 and 7 horses. What an absolute waste of time and electricity auto-running horses to level them, breed them down a tier and start all over. The game is so RNG dependent it makes me cringe even thinking about it any more. But, many Asians seem to love being RNG dependent...go figure.

The thing I love about Subsistence is that there are absolutely NO 'faux' computer-bestowed skills based on experience grind. I certainly hope it stays that way.

But, nevertheless, I don't find this a grind since I don't bother entering the game with a specific goal to build something. Eventually you'll have more nails than you know what to do with if you just go about each ingame day not focusing on one specific resource.
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