Dear Solo Developer

[Kitamakura]

Dear Solo Developer,

My two friends asked me if they should buy the game? I said "No" because we just don't hear from you, I'm already happy if you had to say a good day once to the people/gamers here.It can be such a joy to hear from you, so even if it's just a greeting to all.

PS: No = Wait

With sincere and best regards

[Zuleica]

Originally posted by Canuck:

Originally posted by Zuleica:

You're kidding right? No, I don't expect anyone to respect my 'opinions' when they are as moronic as this one is. He enjoys the game but won't recommend it because the dev doesn't pop in to "say a good day"? Really needs his ego massaged that much?

I'd rather the dev get the next update out and ignore the BS here...despite the fact that I question how an elevator fits into the game.

And yes, for the price the content provides enough game play to amortize the cost per hour down to pennies. You don't often find that kind of entertainment value.

I'm just utterly amazed anyone...ANYONE...would withhold recommendations for that particular reason. I'm even more amazed anyone would admit to it.

People like to jump to their own conclusions here which is a lot of the problem with this forum. I understand what he meant I to have told my friends when asked about it NOT to get it in its current state unless it was on sale. I know my friends I know what they like as does he I'm sure.

I have a lot of games specially like this and I seen them die as well. Do i wish that for this game ? No but on its current path like you mentioned " a elevator " who knows. People make him sound likes he is the only single developer in the world. Up to now he has made a great game in his vision and that alone should be something he should be proud of. But he isn't alone in the 1 man struggle to create games.

That's just my 2 cents.

But what you told your friends is NOT what he said. He very specifically said he didn't recommend it because the dev doesn't pop in to say hi. You claim you know what he meant but based on what exactly? Clearly not his actual words, as they were very clear and made no mention of its current state.

And the elevator is not indicative of it's "current path" as odd choices like that have cropped up from time to time. A game that has consistent updates for over three and a half years and the updates have a record of being largely defect free is a really good indicator of being on the right path despite odd design decisions of which some of us do not agree.

But the entire idea that the dev doesn't pay us enough attention in forums? Really? How about the 'attention' he pays us is through his effort? That's not 'good enough'?

[Original-Pauper]

Originally posted by Canuck:

Lol someone rattled the fanboys feathers.

It's his own opinion like it or not it is what it is. You expect people to respect you're comments as they are your opinions do you not?

Canuck your comment just isn't correct from the start. Critical has is not a "fanboi". He does contribute amazing video helps to new-comers to the game, but on Discord he has been brutally honest with CG on some of the aspects in the game.

I have had moments of brutal honesty with the unbalanced approach that is sometimes used in new game elements. BUT, the recommendation of a game shouldn't be based on whether or not the dev is all over the forums talking to the players.

Would I like a bit more feedback from CG - yes. But that is only to a point. If he comments on every new thread, he isn't coding and developing the game.

Does the game have holes, yes. It also has some truly amazing upsides. I am hoping for the continued success of the game so that CG can continue to develop it.

Prinocio is a new player from what I can tell, so, grace is deserved but his reasoning for telling possibly new customers to not buy it is really jacked up and Critical was addressing that element of his comments. In order for any developing game to survive, it needs new players, new ideas, new feedback...not less.

[ice_freezer]

Originally posted by Canuck:

unlike a lot of the love struck fan boys here

LOL. You come off as a person whose experiences with forum interactions are extremely sparse. God forbid you meet a real fanboy )

[Kitamakura]

Originally posted by Canuck:

Originally posted by Sifner:

I think this is one of those posts you just take with a grain of salt.


On the flip side, OPs friends will take the No as gospel, skip the game, and the community has lost..nothing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You are correct you are open minded unlike a lot of the love struck fan boys here whom i just don't bother with replying to anymore.

+100 for Canuck - Ice_freezer and Sifner : Some people don’t seek to understand. They just want to spout their opinion.Usually, when people give there opinion here, it’s not to resolve an issue or to understand each other, it’s just about spouting my opinion. So I say only wait to my friends , for me wait to buy is " NO ".

[Sifner]

I think to be true champions for any game, we have to be able to both defend it and also acknowledge when it's lacking (in direction, or developer handling, or whatever) - we also probably have to acknowledge that people might not get it for completely odd (to us reasons), like OP, or get it for equally weird reasons (like my wife,who patiently follows me into games and was excited by having planting AND a stove!)

So in summary and TLDR, happy Friday all.

[Original-Pauper]

Originally posted by Canuck:

Originally posted by Prinocio:

+100 for Canuck - Ice_freezer and Sifner : Some people don’t seek to understand. They just want to spout their opinion.Usually, when people give there opinion here, it’s not to resolve an issue or to understand each other, it’s just about spouting my opinion. So I say only wait to my friends , for me wait to buy is " NO ".

Yes but is saying so you butt hurt a lot of people. Its seems that your'e opinion isn't as valid as theirs and should not be respected as an opinion instead be rip apart to suit their opinions instead.

His opinion is just as valid as anyone else. I think it also valid that people weigh people's opinions based on a number of different metrics. If you are seeking a builder to build a house, you would trust someone who just received their contractor's license over someone who has been doing it for years?

Terry, Zul, Critical, Duck, etc. have been around this game almost since it's birth.

[Kitamakura]

Originally posted by Sifner:

I think to be true champions for any game, we have to be able to both defend it and also acknowledge when it's lacking (in direction, or developer handling, or whatever) - we also probably have to acknowledge that people might not get it for completely odd (to us reasons), like OP, or get it for equally weird reasons (like my wife,who patiently follows me into games and was excited by having planting AND a stove!)

So in summary and TLDR, happy Friday all.

Maybe with the new path, you get excited ... that you can take the elevator to your wife's bedroom on the third floor.

[R. Bennett]

Hey wooden puppet, your nose is growing!!! COLD GAMES ROCKS!!! He is doing far better than ANY other single developer!!! Keep up the AWESOME work CG!

[MV-Play]

Originally posted by Canuck:

Keep the wife away from the other open world build games you may lose her :P

Commodore... hmmm... When I was young (and handsome) I had good friends, Amiga's that gave me many reasons to love them. Maybe 500, 600 or even 1200 ;-)

And no endless discussions. Just fun and the odd blue screen...

[MyProfile]

Mr. CG needs to get someone like the guy that mods the 7dtd Steam forums and crap like this would be handled in a prompt fashion. Just a suggestion.

[Sifner]

Originally posted by Canuck:

Originally posted by Sifner:

I think to be true champions for any game, we have to be able to both defend it and also acknowledge when it's lacking (in direction, or developer handling, or whatever) - we also probably have to acknowledge that people might not get it for completely odd (to us reasons), like OP, or get it for equally weird reasons (like my wife,who patiently follows me into games and was excited by having planting AND a stove!)

So in summary and TLDR, happy Friday all.

Keep the wife away from the other open world build games you may lose her :P

j/k dude good to see couples enjoying games together which my wife like games...what am i saying !!!! lol

True facts! Actually got her into a bunch of the multi and single player survival games- she likes the base building aspects when they have it oddly enough. I can take em or leave em!

[Kitamakura]

Originally posted by Zuleica:

Originally posted by Canuck:

People like to jump to their own conclusions here which is a lot of the problem with this forum. I understand what he meant I to have told my friends when asked about it NOT to get it in its current state unless it was on sale. I know my friends I know what they like as does he I'm sure.

I have a lot of games specially like this and I seen them die as well. Do i wish that for this game ? No but on its current path like you mentioned " a elevator " who knows. People make him sound likes he is the only single developer in the world. Up to now he has made a great game in his vision and that alone should be something he should be proud of. But he isn't alone in the 1 man struggle to create games.

That's just my 2 cents.

But what you told your friends is NOT what he said. He very specifically said he didn't recommend it because the dev doesn't pop in to say hi. You claim you know what he meant but based on what exactly? Clearly not his actual words, as they were very clear and made no mention of its current state.

And the elevator is not indicative of it's "current path" as odd choices like that have cropped up from time to time. A game that has consistent updates for over three and a half years and the updates have a record of being largely defect free is a really good indicator of being on the right path despite odd design decisions of which some of us do not agree.

But the entire idea that the dev doesn't pay us enough attention in forums? Really? How about the 'attention' he pays us is through his effort? That's not 'good enough'?

Zuleica That was one of your comments years ago :

Origineel geplaatst door Zuleica:
Origineel geplaatst door @Slayer_Mikkey:
this is his frist game i belive at least on steam. if his developer profile for steam is not private then you should be able to see his list of games etc. and he is a solo developer for all the new people who are looking to buy the game. non the less this game has surprised me over the top for a really well built and maintained community and game by far. i give him a 100/100 for the hard work and dedication he's putting into Subsistence and how much he has done to it. I don't think he's too worried about a website at this point. his selling point is all on Steam. after all why would a solo developer need a website for just him self. not that's it's not needed but who knows maybe he'll build one down the road in the near future.

Yeah, ColdGames gets 100/100 from me as well.

I've seen him reply to people that had problems almost instantaneously and help recover lost saves and such. This is the most responsive developer I've ever seen. And to think he's doing this all by himself is utterly amazing.

I got my money's worth alrready, everything else is gravy.

It's not easy starting out though. I was plenty frustrated until I figured out that taking you time and thinking about every move gets you there. One day I realized I was no longer strugling to survive...I was actually THRIVING. I still die now and then, but I know the map so well now, and have multiple bases and backup shacks for emergencies. I know how the animals react and even took out a hunter base for the first time today...then I died tring to do it again :)

It IS early access and in alpha and though the developer seems to be superhuman to do this in his free time, it's going to take a while with one person to get everything where he wants it.

I completely support this effort, it's pretty amazing.