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=GO= ReD-Dragon 2019 年 7 月 6 日 上午 2:12
Wolf and Bear loot
Correct me if i'm wrong but can it be that hunting a Wolf is more rewarding than hunting a bear? Specially when i want fat.
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dfurdievich 2019 年 7 月 6 日 上午 2:38 
bears are tougher than wolves..
=GO= ReD-Dragon 2019 年 7 月 6 日 上午 2:59 
That is obvious but this was not my question.
Deli 2019 年 7 月 6 日 上午 3:35 
At some point you'll only want to kill the brown (Grizzly) bears, cougars, moose, deer if you need glue, and then of course the hunters and their bases.

Killing the Grizzly bears will be mostly for fat to turn into fuel once you start raising chickens and have a stock of premium meals stored in your frig.

If you're comparing killing a wolf versus the killing a black bear then I would agree with you. The black bear is simply a waste of ammo compared to wolves for the most part. I avoid black bears when I see them.

If you're really low on fat I would only hunt down Grizzlies and Moose.
Akeel 2019 年 7 月 6 日 下午 1:56 
Reared level 10 chickens give 6 fat.
Rubber 2019 年 7 月 6 日 下午 2:20 
The rewards for killing a bear are not as great, and that's the opposite of what it should be. That has been mentioned on this forum many times. I, for one, really wish ColdGames would address this issue. I mean, a huge Grizzly is only going to give me one steak, and one fat? On the flip side, I feel he also needs to drastically reduce the amount of animals, as well as increase what we get from a kill. This has bothered me since day one.
Deli 2019 年 7 月 6 日 下午 2:51 
I usually get 2-3 fat per grizzly kill plus whatever steak or liver I get; with the liver going for the potions, liver&onions, or mass. I don't specifically hunt them anymore though. You really don't have to once you're raising chickens.

Akeel is right about fat from level 10 chickens but until you get to that point the bear is a good fat source. The fat/meat compared to the shotgun ammo you use is a good trade.
Rubber 2019 年 7 月 6 日 下午 3:00 
引用自 Halsinki
I usually get 2-3 fat per grizzly kill plus whatever steak or liver I get; with the liver going for the potions, liver&onions, or mass. I don't specifically hunt them anymore though. You really don't have to once you're raising chickens.

Akeel is right about fat from level 10 chickens but until you get to that point the bear is a good fat source. The fat/meat compared to the shotgun ammo you use is a good trade.
That's true, but the OP was addressing how unbalanced the loot table is. A wolf is much easier to kill, early game. The reward for killing a bear should be greater than it is.
Eleazaros 2019 年 7 月 6 日 下午 3:10 
It can be more rewarding than bears, especially towards later game.

An upgraded recurve bow, with normal arrows, can drop wolves fast, bears take more shots and the normal arrows are very easy to get materials for, and make, later on.

Best yield per kill is, of course, the grizzly bear but the wolves are so common and easily dropped that they can readily be dealt with for solid returns.
Deli 2019 年 7 月 6 日 下午 5:07 
引用自 Rubber
引用自 Halsinki
I usually get 2-3 fat per grizzly kill plus whatever steak or liver I get; with the liver going for the potions, liver&onions, or mass. I don't specifically hunt them anymore though. You really don't have to once you're raising chickens.

Akeel is right about fat from level 10 chickens but until you get to that point the bear is a good fat source. The fat/meat compared to the shotgun ammo you use is a good trade.
That's true, but the OP was addressing how unbalanced the loot table is. A wolf is much easier to kill, early game. The reward for killing a bear should be greater than it is.
@rubber
I agree that the reward should be greater for killing a bear. The grizzlies are "decent" for fat farming once you get a shotgun and will carry you into mid-game. Also, I think you still get more bang for your buck when crafting shotgun shells so that's a factor as well.

As for black bears... there just a waste of time and ammo right now.

@Eleazaros
I do agree with you about mid to late game. Once you get a level 4 dmg recurve bow it changes your gameplay up quite a bit. I'm only talking about hunting grizzles in early to mid game once you have a shotgun made and start getting it leveled up. I can't remember exactly but at level 2 or 3 you can pull a grizzly with a regular arrow and then the shotgun takes care of the rest. At a level 4 dmg shotgun of couse you just run up to them and one-shot them in the face.

At late game though I don't bother with looking for them. I'll kill one if it's in my path but I don't actively look for them. A level 4 recurve 2 shots wolves with two regular arrows which is pretty efficient given that sometimes you get lucky on the haul. It takes at least three arrows to a level 1 or 2 black bear and the loot will still be far better out of the same level wolf comparatively.

tldr: I agree with you wholeheartedly! :P
Duck1098 2019 年 7 月 6 日 下午 5:59 
引用自 Rubber
The rewards for killing a bear are not as great, and that's the opposite of what it should be. That has been mentioned on this forum many times. I, for one, really wish ColdGames would address this issue. I mean, a huge Grizzly is only going to give me one steak, and one fat? On the flip side, I feel he also needs to drastically reduce the amount of animals, as well as increase what we get from a kill. This has bothered me since day one.
+1
+1
+1

How many more times will we need to ask for this to be addressed ?? Oh wait....he's working hard on important things like a rogue hunter camp detector....THAT NO ONE ASKED FOR !!
Deli 2019 年 7 月 6 日 下午 6:26 
@duck1098
I'm sure the answer you would get is "the game is in Alpha which for adding content. Beta is for balancing and optimization".

I do agree though. With the amount of content in the game he should take a break for a month or two and work on balancing, refining whatever mechanics, and work on QoL stuff like getting out of water.
Rubber 2019 年 7 月 6 日 下午 6:53 
引用自 duck1098
引用自 Rubber
The rewards for killing a bear are not as great, and that's the opposite of what it should be. That has been mentioned on this forum many times. I, for one, really wish ColdGames would address this issue. I mean, a huge Grizzly is only going to give me one steak, and one fat? On the flip side, I feel he also needs to drastically reduce the amount of animals, as well as increase what we get from a kill. This has bothered me since day one.
+1
+1
+1

How many more times will we need to ask for this to be addressed ?? Oh wait....he's working hard on important things like a rogue hunter camp detector....THAT NO ONE ASKED FOR !!
This is why I wish we did have options like TLD. Problem solved.
Duck1098 2019 年 7 月 6 日 下午 8:56 
引用自 Halsinki
@duck1098
I'm sure the answer you would get is "the game is in Alpha which for adding content. Beta is for balancing and optimization".

I do agree though. With the amount of content in the game he should take a break for a month or two and work on balancing, refining whatever mechanics, and work on QoL stuff like getting out of water.
I would be totally fine with a no new content update that just dealt with those issues.
Duck1098 2019 年 7 月 6 日 下午 8:57 
引用自 Rubber
引用自 duck1098
+1
+1
+1

How many more times will we need to ask for this to be addressed ?? Oh wait....he's working hard on important things like a rogue hunter camp detector....THAT NO ONE ASKED FOR !!
This is why I wish we did have options like TLD. Problem solved.
TLD is a fantastic game that does so many things well. The level of customization they added is nuts.
=GO= ReD-Dragon 2019 年 7 月 8 日 上午 7:30 
引用自 Halsinki
I usually get 2-3 fat per grizzly kill plus whatever steak or liver I get; with the liver going for the potions, liver&onions, or mass. I don't specifically hunt them anymore though. You really don't have to once you're raising chickens.

Akeel is right about fat from level 10 chickens but until you get to that point the bear is a good fat source. The fat/meat compared to the shotgun ammo you use is a good trade.

I only kill Bears with a Bow. Is pretty easy, just dodge some trees and mostly they stuck inside and you can shoot them down relaxed.

Something off topic, you talk about lvl 10 chickens. I have a upgraded Animalhouse but my Chickens stop leveling at lvl 3, what i have to do to get them on lvl 10?
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