Subsistence

Subsistence

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AJYXQ Jul 5, 2019 @ 7:54pm
Can't find enough fibres for cordage?
I make it through my first night but I don't ever have enough food to keep me going in the second day. So I want to make a fishing rod but struggle to find enough. Any tips?

-Edit-: Thanks for the replies and the video, helped out a lot.
Last edited by AJYXQ; Jul 6, 2019 @ 4:14pm
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gameelder Jul 5, 2019 @ 8:31pm 
Do not go for a fishing rod in your first day. More or less follow the tips that show up on the left when you open your inventory. In general go for the following in order. It may take a couple days to complete it all.
Fire (build it first, but don't start it until nightfall)
Kelp (blueberries are good too, but kelp is more of a sure thing)
Chickens
Bow
More small game meat (chickens especially)
Shelter

You'll find find that in the early game fibers, nails, and sometimes feathers will be in short supply. Just keep searching a large area each day and make sure you keep a few of each (as well as fire starters) in reserve at your base just in case.

One more note, DO NOT try to kill any large game immediately. Save your bullets for emergency protection from wolves. Once you are established you can start real hunts. Also note that hunters will start to spawn 3 days after building and setting your base control unit so don't build set it up until you are ready for that.
Last edited by gameelder; Jul 5, 2019 @ 8:52pm
Deli Jul 5, 2019 @ 9:26pm 
An important thing to do is as you run into a new item like fibre, blueberries, veggi plants, scrap metal, is to train your eyes in order to see them easier. When you run into stop a few feet before it, crouch and what you do is see how the fibre looks compared to everything in the distance. If you do this for say the first two weeks in game (game time) you'll have your eyes trained so well you will start seeing fiber at great distances.

Edit: Gameelder is right on all points by the way. I think you can survive as long as you keep your veggies up and the easiest way is to dive in the ponds and lale. As for the fishing rod I guess I wouldn't normally go for it early and Gameelder is pretty spot on on his "to do early" list. BUT... You definitely can play the way you want to. If you camp on the NE side of the lake it would put you close to kelp, clams, sandstone, the mine (once you get scuba equipment), and within decent running distance to three Grub trees. You need the grubs to make fish lures or whatever they're called. Sorry... having a brain fart there. :P

And also... happy hunting out there.
Last edited by Deli; Jul 6, 2019 @ 1:52am
gameelder Jul 5, 2019 @ 11:44pm 
I just want to clarify why you should not try to fish your first day.
1. The rod and tackle are expensive to produce compared to bow and arrow.
2. Each fish caught (or tackle lost) will cost cordage and grub. Early on it can be hard to get both of those things.
3. Fishing can take a long time and early on you need to spend that time gathering other resources.

I DO, however, recommend you make the rod within the first 2-3 days. Fishing is your 'meat of last resort' because it is safe to get even at night. This is also a good reason why it is advisable to build your base on the edge of water.

Also, if this is your first play through, I STRONGLY recommend building near the big lake. It is easy to find by just heading EAST until you see it and when hunting for resources it is a clear and reliable guide post to locate points of interest. Once you are familiar with the map you might try other locations further inland. Personally, I like building with one base entrance leading directly into the lake so you have a secret escape/entrance and a nice safe place to fish from.
Last edited by gameelder; Jul 5, 2019 @ 11:46pm
Rubber Jul 6, 2019 @ 1:35am 
You'll get the hang of seeing fiber, it's in every direction. Use a bow, and hunt chickens, and rabbits.
=GO= ReD-Dragon Jul 6, 2019 @ 2:04am 
After a while you get an eye for fibers and see them everywhere. I started burning my fibers because i have to much.
00 Critical Jul 6, 2019 @ 4:17am 
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darknessanubis Jul 6, 2019 @ 5:41am 
Also they are not a huge amount of protein but they ARE protein. You can eat the grubs if things get desperate. If you make a big enough circle in the big lake area 5-10 grubs a day are not difficult to achieve there are many 6 hit trees in the area.
terry Jul 6, 2019 @ 6:19am 
As you play more and learn how to spot fiber you will see that there is plenty of fiber in the game. Its very easy to get 40+ every day without even covering a large area of the map. They respawn very quickly and are plentiful everywhere. Plenty of everything to make the fishing rod, as long as you know which trees to get the grubs from.
Every time I start a new hardcore profile, I make the fishing rod before I make the bow.
Zuleica Jul 6, 2019 @ 6:21am 
Originally posted by terry:
As you play more and learn how to spot fiber you will see that there is plenty of fiber in the game. Its very easy to get 40+ every day without even covering a large area of the map. They respawn very quickly and are plentiful everywhere. Plenty of everything to make the fishing rod, as long as you know which trees to get the grubs from.
Every time I start a new hardcore profile, I make the fishing rod before I make the bow.

Once you get the hang of it you can do fine on hardcore with either a bow or fishing rod first. You can even get by fine without either by catching chickens.
Last edited by Zuleica; Jul 6, 2019 @ 6:21am
Akeel Jul 6, 2019 @ 9:01am 
There are many ways to start the game of Subsistence. Players have a lot of ideas, suggestions and "How to's". It's up to J Francesco to decide which way to go. I just couldn't help myself from chiming in:

This is how I started: First Priority: Survive!!!

I avoided any confrontations with wolves, bears and cougars. No hunters, Easy mode. I was constantly on the move between crafting the getting the basic necessities, always scavenging.


1.) I chopped wood, went from tree to tree, got as many logs as I could (25 is a good start)

2.) As I went from tree to tree, I was on the look out for Containers, Fiber and plants. I kept everything I found.

3.) MADE A CAMP FIRE::
a.) Used a log to make 2 sticks,
b.) Combined with 4 logs= Crafted 1 Campfire.

4.) MADE A FIRE-STARTING KIT:
a.) Used 2 sticks (made from logs), 2 Fiber Plants and one Biofuel, (Biofuel is made from 4 Medicinal Herbs or found in crates)
b.) Combined to= craft 1 Fire starter Kit.

Kept Camp Fire and Fire-starting Kit in my inventory for nighttime use, so I don't freeze to death, at night I cooked food and purified (boiled) dirty water. I need more logs to feed the fire so it doesn't go out.

5.) MADE A HUNTING BOW AND ARROWS:
The crafting recipes are all listed on the right side of the inventory display. I shot arrows into a tree for practice, they are retrievable from trees and wooden structures or if stuck in the ground. Small Games Arrows will be destroyed if I hit a rock or shoot an animal.

6.) HUNTED CHICKENS AND RABBITS WITH BOW AND ARROWS:
I Killed them but didn't butcher them until I was ready to cook them. Aim slightly above the chicken. I can catch chickens by chasing them and picking them up, but I was never good at it. A dead chicken or rabbit remained fresh for approximately 28 to 30 minutes (real time) in the inventory before turning into a rotten dead chicken.

For my vegetable needs, I dove for kelp (I monitored my dives (blue bar), made them short so I don't drown) in the ponds and lakes, and picked veggies off the ground.

I did this for 2 to 3 in game days before even thinking about starting to build a base. It took me about that long to get the resources I needed.
Last edited by Akeel; Jul 6, 2019 @ 11:57am
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