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John Raeder Sep 20, 2017 @ 6:44pm
Chicken and rabbit feces
I heard from another player that rabbits produce more feces than chickens, can anyone confirm this?
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Zuleica Sep 20, 2017 @ 6:46pm 
I can't confirm that, but then I don't raise rabbits as the cost totally out weights the benefit.
00 Critical Sep 20, 2017 @ 6:50pm 
Ohh .... something to test:)
Trooper Bri Sep 20, 2017 @ 6:56pm 
Agreed with Z. Rabbits don't have the cost justification of chickens. There's a serious imbalance of resources from them currently.
mpear1 Sep 20, 2017 @ 7:15pm 
Originally posted by Trooper Bri:
Agreed with Z. Rabbits don't have the cost justification of chickens. There's a serious imbalance of resources from them currently.
+1
SweetHart Sep 20, 2017 @ 9:11pm 
I do rabbits and chickens. A level 10 rabbit gives you two high quality meat, 2 to 3 fat, and 1 or two cloth. As I've never just done just 1 rabbit or 1 chicken at a time, I'm not sure if the amount of feces is different. I will have to watch that next time.
Zuleica Sep 20, 2017 @ 9:24pm 
Originally posted by SweetHart53:
I do rabbits and chickens. A level 10 rabbit gives you two high quality meat, 2 to 3 fat, and 1 or two cloth. As I've never just done just 1 rabbit or 1 chicken at a time, I'm not sure if the amount of feces is different. I will have to watch that next time.

I realize the end product from rabbits, I did experiment with them early on. However a high quality meat is not as good as a liver which require a single shotgun shell. So for two shotgun shells I can get more protien, the same cloth and a lot more fat than all of the food and water I have to dump into the coop to get that rabbit to lvl 10.

Chickens however provide 7 eggs, the same two high quality meat, the same fat and about 7 premium feathers now...which are extremely valuable. The only thing you don't get is the cloth which can easily be had from killing two rabbits with a bow.
MV-Play Sep 20, 2017 @ 11:42pm 
It's a shame that they do not have more to offer than being cute.
I can only think of high quality fur for the cold winters, if CG creates seasons.
Last edited by MV-Play; Sep 21, 2017 @ 3:08am
John Raeder Sep 21, 2017 @ 12:50am 
Yes MV, or another source of padded cloth.
MV-Play Sep 21, 2017 @ 3:12am 
Originally posted by John Raeder:
Yes MV, or another source of padded cloth.
Maybe an extra warm sleeping bag...
I am still thinking of crossing the freezing mountains to discover other regions :-)
DeAdEnD Sep 21, 2017 @ 4:53am 
Originally posted by MV-Play:
It's a shame that they do not have more to offer than being cute.
I can only think of high quality fur for the cold winters, if CG creates seasons.

Or just for the night so you don't have to sit infront of the woodburner to keep your hands warm :-)
MV-Play Sep 21, 2017 @ 4:56am 
Originally posted by */DeAdEnD\*:
Originally posted by MV-Play:
It's a shame that they do not have more to offer than being cute.
I can only think of high quality fur for the cold winters, if CG creates seasons.

Or just for the night so you don't have to sit infront of the woodburner to keep your hands warm :-)
Yep, let's look for a reason to hunt rabbits down.
PolarBear Sep 21, 2017 @ 6:45am 
OZZY FUDD THE WABBIT SLAYER
Stigandr Sep 23, 2017 @ 4:15pm 
I have raised both single chicken and rabbit. They take the same amount of food and water, so no clear difference there. Chicken will produce 1 Egg/day from Level 3-9, no eggs after reaching 10. Rabbit produces about twice as much feces over the same period as a chicken, meaning more fertilizer. So from level 0-2 you get more from the rabbit overall.

After reaching level 10 the differences are more prevalent. Level 10 chicken will produce 2 quality meats and so will the rabbit; however, the rabbit quality meat is just below that of a cooked liver, about 15-20% more nutrition/protien/hunger than the level 10 rabbit meat. On average I get 3 fat from each, so no real difference there. L10 chicken provides premium feathers for higher grade bow ammunition, L10 rabbit on average provides 3 cloth for me.

Both animals have benefits and they're fairly equal in consideration. If I'm doing more plant boxes I concentrate on having a couple of rabbits to ease the burden of fertilizer. If I'm getting low on superior arrows I'll raise a single chicken. I never raise more than 2 animals at a time though. The only exception to this is if I have a level 9 animal closing on 10 and I want to get ready to replace it because I still have need of it's particular output resource, then I'll add the one extra animal in for no more than a days period.

Currently I have no need of premium feathers so no chickens raising atm. There is always a need for cloth though for bandages, first aid kits, making new weapons and upgrades for various items. Also remember that just because some animals can drop liver/cloth doesn't mean they will, it's RNG. I've killed 5 wolves straight before and only got a liver on the last 1(needed it for an antidote). I've also killed multiple animals and not received cloth before.

Instead of looking at the rabbits and saying they're not worth it, think of them as a guaranteed outcome instead of random chance. It depends on the effort and resources the player wants to expend in different areas.

Edit for new test run:
After looking at the old notes the above post was based on I decided to check this again today. I sampled at 5 minutes, 10 minutes and 20 minute intervals for each.

Food and water usage almost identical, rabbit may take about 5-10% more water over time. Note this isn't 5-10% of the bar, but rather 5-10% more than the chicken which would equate to about 2% on the bar, so insignificant.

The biggest difference is feces output, which it looks like the rabbit is only doing about 20% more now, not double. Not sure if this is part of a change directed at the animal raising or the result of a game wide nourishment adjustment for the upcoming build. We've had about 3 updates on the experimental side in the last 2 weeks that no one has seen notes or information on.
Last edited by Stigandr; Sep 23, 2017 @ 6:14pm
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