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Accuracy of the guns in this game
Anyone know of the drop off ranges or spread on target of any of the guns in this game? I know the 9mm must have some spread on the target at range but I'm missing blatent shots with the 44 revolver some times. It's always seemed to me that the 7.62 rifle(SVT-40 rifle?) always hits on target as it is a rifle and should have no problem with accuracy. And the shotgun, I just don't trust my life to the shotgun, anyone know how good it is or when/how to use it? Thanks for your feed back
Last edited by Machines Within; Oct 16, 2017 @ 8:37pm
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Zuleica Oct 16, 2017 @ 12:55pm 
All except the shotgun have no spread. The shotgun has a fairly wide spread which is why I always recommend letting the predator start it's final jump and shoot it point blank from a crouch. I rarely engage hunters with a shotgun, you have to be directly in their face.

Pistols and the rifle have no drop and no spread. I've actually pulled off head shots on hunters from a distance where the iron sight completely covered their head.

Arrows have drop and no spread. You should practice at various ranges against a knot on a tree so you can recover most of your arrows.
Machines Within Oct 16, 2017 @ 12:56pm 
Thanks. I figured the shotgun was not a go to gun haha. I'll just have to shoot more.
Zuleica Oct 16, 2017 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by Rain:
Thanks. I figured the shotgun was not a go to gun haha. I'll just have to shoot more.

I keep the shotgun equipped for normal roaming around for quick self defense against predators. If I know I'm entering a hunter area, or an area with the possibility of rogue camps I haven't already identified then I equip my rifle and use high ground and the rifle's zoom to scout 360 degrees. I only equip my 9mm if I have a wolf attack coming that I'm aware of in advance. I only equip the 44 if I know i'm going after a cougar.

Of course I switch to backups as I indicated above in the middle of a fight if I don't have an opportunity to tactically reload my equiped weapon.

So a shotgun is absolutely my go to defensive weapon for predator surprises in the field.
Ribalder Oct 16, 2017 @ 3:14pm 
On further review, 1st shot WASS a hit, watch carefully, 4th shot was a miss.
5 shots - 4 hits, but if yur crouching you get a broken leg, happened a couple times now.
IT IS going to be a face to face an you better make hits cos dam thing runs over to you so fast. I have the combat vest an took 1 swipe, but it was close.
maybe switch to shotty for his charge? the 44?
BUT that first chest shot would drop em if modeled correctly
Theres no area damage specific modeling- so a head shot is same as body shot-until you exceed the hit points they come full strength.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1167976324

.. an some fun testing the 44 when I first got it-
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1168215251
Last edited by Ribalder; Oct 16, 2017 @ 3:33pm
PVTBambi Oct 16, 2017 @ 3:54pm 
@ Ribalder...I always aim down sights and get hits... most of your shots except for the first ones are not aiming down sights... maybe this is why you miss sometimes... use shotgun at close range...it is 2-3 times the damage of other weapons depending on upgrades.
Ribalder Oct 16, 2017 @ 6:03pm 
first shot WAS a hit an would a been a kill shot where placed. fo sure.
when they charge Im forced to back up firing wildly from the hip- dont matter staying zoomed in they coming..they coming, either way takes more shots, anyways cant miss that close- ya shotty- chk vids here-
Warm Fuzzies™ Oct 16, 2017 @ 6:09pm 
Originally posted by Ribalder:
like this?-
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1171726832
or this?-
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1171761852

Originally posted by Warm Fuzzies:
At melee range, the shotgun deals 120 damage per shot, with no upgrades.

Damage wise, there is no reason to use an SVT in CQB as the Shotgun will always out perform it.

After the first SVT hit, it would have cost you one shotgun shell for the wolf, and 2 for the cougar.


Beyond that, you've been complaining about wanting the hunting to be more realistic.

Yet you turned your back on a predator that you knew full well was there.

A smart hunter would have simply used 1 shotgun shell to ensure the primary hunt was not interrupted.
Ribalder Oct 16, 2017 @ 6:42pm 
lol u such a hater fuzzy, an lazy too, copy an paste same sht on two threads
Warm Fuzzies™ Oct 16, 2017 @ 7:08pm 
Originally posted by Ribalder:
lol u such a hater fuzzy, an lazy too, copy an paste same sht on two threads

No different than you posting the same things in different threads.

I realize sentient behavior may be a bit of a novel concept to you, but could you at least try a little harder.
Ribalder Oct 16, 2017 @ 7:53pm 
but im on topic with this guys discussion, an others my original post of vid.
youre just a stalking hater I got following me around cos u very weird hateful lil man I made fun of -lol, thats the dif dude, go tell spock, or is he busy w yur mom again?
Zuleica Oct 16, 2017 @ 7:59pm 
Originally posted by Ribalder:
but im on topic with this guys discussion, an others my original post of vid.
youre just a stalking hater I got following me around cos u very weird hateful lil man I made fun of -lol, thats the dif dude, go tell spock, or is he busy w yur mom again?

Do you actually talk to adults in RL like this? I hope not, it will not serve you well into your future.
Warm Fuzzies™ Oct 16, 2017 @ 8:06pm 
Originally posted by Zuleica:
Originally posted by Ribalder:
but im on topic with this guys discussion, an others my original post of vid.
youre just a stalking hater I got following me around cos u very weird hateful lil man I made fun of -lol, thats the dif dude, go tell spock, or is he busy w yur mom again?

Do you actually talk to adults in RL like this? I hope not, it will not serve you well into your future.

A future? Yeah, pretty sure that ship set sail long before he came to berate this community.
Professor Oct 16, 2017 @ 8:19pm 
Originally posted by Ribalder:
go tell spock, or is he busy w yur mom again?

Post reported to Steam for abuse.
Ribalder Oct 16, 2017 @ 8:25pm 
Originally posted by Zuleica:
Originally posted by Ribalder:
but im on topic with this guys discussion, an others my original post of vid.
youre just a stalking hater I got following me around cos u very weird hateful lil man I made fun of -lol, thats the dif dude, go tell spock, or is he busy w yur mom again?

Do you actually talk to adults in RL like this? I hope not, it will not serve you well into your future.
♥♥♥♥♥??! MEE? this guy talk to me like he do hed get dropped in a sec man, hes hating me since first day an Im holding back for awhile but fok it, not no mo- he IS my stalker hater every thread, chk it out, freakin psycho in a basement somewhere-

Originally posted by Professor:
Originally posted by Ribalder:
go tell spock, or is he busy w yur mom again?

Post reported to Steam for abuse.
ok

Originally posted by Warm Fuzzies:
Originally posted by Zuleica:

Do you actually talk to adults in RL like this? I hope not, it will not serve you well into your future.

A future? Yeah, pretty sure that ship set sail long before he came to berate this community.
nooo..yuuurrr ship saaailed. yaaaaa. umm..whaaaat?
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