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Hey there ColdGames and a happy new Year to you and all other here.

So after the last Update, i start Today a new Game for testing the new easy Mode. After 2 Hours i can say, i dont see realy that is easy mode. I have so many Bears and Wolfes with lev 2-3 from the start and now near my Base, im thinking, i put it on easy or is that normal Mode??

I need for an lev 1-2 Wolf one Shell with the Gun + 2 Shells from the Shotgun. I dont understand this , crates are spawn like on the other Mode so i must say, for me the easy Mode has nothing to do with easy, sry. I mean you must change this a little bit.

BTW, thats only my Opinion, i dont know, how feel the other Player the new Mode but if i see , how many Animals spawn in that Mode, and every Time where is a crate stays a Lev 3 Bear with a Wolf so , no Sir, thats not easy.
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fillemfullead Jan 4, 2017 @ 1:46am 
try level three the hard core mode you will see the difference straight away -and appreciate the easy and normal modes more .there is a difference i can assure you
you'll see
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fillemfullead Jan 4, 2017 @ 1:55am 
most wolves will go down from 1 shot gun shell if you get close and dont take your eye's off -pull when about 5 feet from you and he will go down like a rock in a pond - you seem to be trying to shoot from too far away get close use crouch set up your kill 's -get used to pulling animals away from crates (only in easy or normal modes )then circle arround to collect when they hav been moved away -this is not so hard and allows to get more loot its all a practiced thing but it helps
:steamhappy:

Originally posted by fillemfullead:
most wolves will go down from 1 shot gun shell if you get close and dont take your eye's off -pull when about 5 feet from you and he will go down like a rock in a pond - you seem to be trying to shoot from too far away get close use crouch set up your kill 's -get used to pulling animals away from crates (only in easy or normal modes )then circle arround to collect when they hav been moved away -this is not so hard and allows to get more loot its all a practiced thing but it helps
:steamhappy:

I play this Game many Hours ( 147 ) and i know that i must shoot with the Shotgun if the Animal is near me and i need only one Shoot but Today i need 2 and i do it like i do it every Time.

But how i say, for me its feel not like an easy Mode.
Last edited by [ Col ] Chamberlain; Jan 4, 2017 @ 2:02am
jimbob6f Jan 4, 2017 @ 2:22am 
♥♥♥♥ this game pisses me off something rotten i like it wona play it but i cant even survive long enough to build a base its such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ grind sooo ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ slow! Plz make more loot less animals on easy! plz dont make me waste my money on ♥♥♥♥ games! I cant play this game atm plz make super easy mode or somthing plz!!!
bubumic Jan 4, 2017 @ 2:23am 
190 hours in game and i can tell : easy is easy man ...... normal is what i have play untill now and hardcore ..... well, 2 times i tried and failed :)) but i love it just the way it is ..... i can't wait for all those players who asked for hardcore to tell if they are happy - i am sure they are not - but what the hell hardcore means ..... HARDCORE :d
bubumic Jan 4, 2017 @ 2:25am 
Originally posted by jimbob6f:
♥♥♥♥ this game pisses me off something rotten i like it wona play it but i cant even survive long enough to build a base its such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ grind sooo ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ slow! Plz make more loot less animals on easy! plz dont make me waste my money on ♥♥♥♥ games! I cant play this game atm plz make super easy mode or somthing plz!!!

look on youtube , there are 2 channels with this game, try and learn. easy means easy. it is a survival game not a building game, not a farming game. if you've bought the game it is a verry good investition. try and leard and read the tutorials.
fillemfullead Jan 4, 2017 @ 2:39am 
Originally posted by jimbob6f:
♥♥♥♥ this game pisses me off something rotten i like it wona play it but i cant even survive long enough to build a base its such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ grind sooo ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ slow! Plz make more loot less animals on easy! plz dont make me waste my money on ♥♥♥♥ games! I cant play this game atm plz make super easy mode or somthing plz!!!
there are some nice vid's to watch by GameEdge on how to playon utube and others too all good for learning the ropes on movement and observation listening is very important in game to hear whats going on arround you
hight will help get up high and survey the area look ahead for things and plan you route dont run every where or u will deplete your energy and not be able to sprint away from danger if it comes looking so keep energy up eat berry's and add to water for better stat dont kill wolves on your first day shoot three rabbits or catch some chickens they pause every time they run and you can run them down or bunny hop your choice it all works to catch them , get fibre and wood till you find nails and trie to survive in game :steamfacepalm::steamfacepalm:


kaganpunchwood Jan 4, 2017 @ 6:51am 
I just tried easy mode, and to be honest, it didn't feel too much different from normal mode. The two things I THINK I noticed were that the nights were warmer, so you didn't freeze to death without a fire on the first night (if you failed to makea fire for some reason) , and the locked box seemed to give a lot more iron fragments than in Normal mode.

The limiting factor from stopping it being 'easy' seems to be protein. Creeping around and avoiding predators isn't that hard, but I for one find catching chickens a really perilous activity as it always seems to take me into bears and wolves.

It also takes two 9mm rounds to bring down a chicken. I had one trapped under my base and couldn't quite reach it, and the noise was driving me nuts, so I shot it in the mid-section at almost point blank range and it was stationary - the first hit drew blood but it was still standing, so only shut up after a second round. Next day I shot another in the wild - the first shot hit again, and had to catch up to it to get the second shot in to bring it down. Suggestion: chickens canbe 1-shot with a 9mm in Easy Mode !

Anyway, into day 3 and haven't died yet - but that's knowing the map and how to get things done, but 'easy' mode could probably do with being a bit easier - just reducing the hunger requirements would do it (else finding more protein bars. I found enough materials to make all of foundation, BCU, storage crate and wall on day 1, but only 1 protein bar).

Normal mode is fine. Haven't tried Hardcore yet, but it sounds hardcore (as it should be to live up to the name).


vicotnik Jan 4, 2017 @ 7:11am 
Originally posted by Col Chamberlain:

I play this Game many Hours ( 147 ) and i know that i must shoot with the Shotgun if the Animal is near me and i need only one Shoot but Today i need 2 and i do it like i do it every Time.

But how i say, for me its feel not like an easy Mode.

I noticed that too, 2 shells on a lvl 3 wolf, seems the one shot kill was nerfed?
Kleber Jan 4, 2017 @ 7:25am 
Originally posted by killermasse:
Originally posted by Col Chamberlain:

I play this Game many Hours ( 147 ) and i know that i must shoot with the Shotgun if the Animal is near me and i need only one Shoot but Today i need 2 and i do it like i do it every Time.

But how i say, for me its feel not like an easy Mode.

I noticed that too, 2 shells on a lvl 3 wolf, seems the one shot kill was nerfed?

lvl1&2 wolves can be 1 shooted with a shotgun, lvl3 i think has 125hp? the shotgun does 120dmg if all paletts hit.

for the gamemodes, i played easy and normal now and i definitly think that easy is more easy then normal , less wolves/bears and less hunters... but i think it needs a bit more then reducing the amount of enemys..

what i think should be added to the easy mode would be.

- more crates
- more loot inside a crate
- more loot from trees/fibers/enemys
- warmer nights

adding more loot to the creates would be good for the food managment too since u get more protein bars if RNGjesus is with u, but still that needs some tweaks too..

for myself i feel like the amount of enemys in easy is fine, but maybe a option for even disabling wolves/bears in a game would be nice for people who only want to build a huge base.

@OP actually patchnotes stated what exactly got changed.

Originally posted by Coldgames:
Easy mode:
Reduced amount of predators.
Option to reload previous save game on death (or continue and respawn).
Reduced hunter bases and the amount of hunters in each base.

http://steamcommunity.com/games/418030/announcements/detail/704084154493523478


for the hardcore mode which i didnt tested so i dont want to talk too much about it, but from what i saw on the forum people complain the most about the Heightened animal senses and aggression.

maybe take this out again and try it with less crates, loot inside the crates and less loot from trees to make that more challanging instead of the already hard wolves and bears
Last edited by Kleber; Jan 4, 2017 @ 7:30am
ColdGames  [developer] Jan 4, 2017 @ 7:51am 
Hi there. Easy mode allows you to simply reload your previous save on death, meaning you don't lose the gear you were carrying and only a few mins progress. There are also 1/3 less predators.

Cheers
mulberryman Jan 4, 2017 @ 9:43pm 
Originally posted by ColdGames:
Hi there. There are also 1/3 less predators.

Cheers
thanks for that was looking for something a bit more detailed than just "fewer predators"
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