Can somebody explain to me why the Complete mod

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is considered easy mode garbage by all the Stalker fanboys? In what ways does it make the game easier? I'm a Stalker noob, but I noticed the community seems to be polarized by the Complete mod so I'd like to know why some think it completely ruins Stalker based on facts, not biased, troliish emotion.

[Sankhe]

http://i.imgur.com/tDUGP.jpg
Found that link one day going through some Stalker forums, thought it was pretty succinct and accurate (aside from the repair confusion) like the poster did so I bookmarked it. I've played with and without the complete mod and I did feel like it made the game too easy, but I think most of the hate for it isn't for the mod itself or some 'fanboy' sense of superiority but for its annoying fans. It's just overhyped.

[jV]

Thanks for the link. Some of the changes are bogus and mess up the challenging aspects of the game, but as a Stalker noob, it kind of helped me get introduced to the series without getting too frustrated with the game. I guess the mod isn't for everyone.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Forget the hype, if u like the mod play it. Make up your own mind about it.
If you don't like it after playing it, well at least you made up your mind about that.

Everyone is going to have an opinion, don't confuse that with something that is accurate or truthful.

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Originally posted by Bad-Motha:

Forget the hype, if u like the mod play it. Make up your own mind about it.
If you don't like it after playing it, well at least you made up your mind about that.

Everyone is going to have an opinion, don't confuse that with something that is accurate or truthful.

Excellent Point. I'm having fun with it and that's all that matters.

[HarrierDuBois]

I might be one of those STALKER fanboys, I think Complete is way too easy. BUT Complete mods are some, if not the most stable mods for STALKER while delivering a great visual experience. Most mods are over-ambitious and wreck the game with bugs or stability issues. And if I think about how "old" the Complete mods are, I have nothing but respect for artistpavel and his team from back then.

[76561198033427924]

it is just that, if you are rookie it is awesome, try out wish granter, mess around with weapons and suits go through the game with ease, and then when you grasp the whole idea of stalking, in other words - what stuff you need and what you don't need, on your 3rd play-through you will see why it was easy. you will find your self only gathering the good stuff and have like 30 rounds of AP and 150 of FMJ and 1 rifle and pistol and you will fill like pro.

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Originally posted by Jonikka:

you will find your self only gathering the good stuff and have like 30 rounds of AP and 150 of FMJ and 1 rifle and pistol and you will fill like pro.

I do this already so I guess I'm stalker pro :D
In all seriousness, the Complete mod is kind of like training wheels for Stalker which isn't a bad thing in some cases.

[Tarman]

The one for Clear sky for example gives you the ability to spawn anything you want at any time. Even vehicles for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake! You can teleport anywhere you want even if you have not been there yet. The complete mod for SoC allows the same things and it even has an option where you can teleport to any point in the game with any items you would have found up until that point. These things seem like it would make it easier to me.

[jV]

Originally posted by MacCready:

The one for Clear sky for example gives you the ability to spawn anything you want at any time. Even vehicles for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake! You can teleport anywhere you want even if you have not been there yet. The complete mod for SoC allows the same things and it even has an option where you can teleport to any point in the game with any items you would have found up until that point. These things seem like it would make it easier to me.

These things are also optional and can be ignored without any headaches whatsoever. I don't even know how to teleport or do any of that so it's not like the mod flaunts these features in your face and forces you to use them. I get your point though that just the fact that they would even add this trash reveals some of their intentions.

[kaay]

Difficulty is part of the intended game experience.
The mods you mentioned are nothing but cheats.
Cheats will make the game easy and thus you will never know what the original game was all about.
But thats not a problem, some players dont have the time/patience/desire to figure out how to overcome difficulty, so they use cheats, i guess calling them mods makes them feel better or something.
If you enjoy playing the game like that, its fine and dandy, you will probably never know what the Stalker games are about but who cares, as long as you are having fun its all good and thats all that matters.

[jV]

Originally posted by kaay:

Difficulty is part of the intended game experience.
The mods you mentioned are nothing but cheats.
Cheats will make the game easy and thus you will never know what the original game was all about.
But thats not a problem, some players dont have the time/patience/desire to figure out how to overcome difficulty, so they use cheats, i guess calling them mods makes them feel better or something.
If you enjoy playing the game like that, its fine and dandy, you will probably never know what the Stalker games are about but who cares, as long as you are having fun its all good and thats all that matters.

Did you sniff your own fart before you posted this?

[kaay]

Originally posted by jv209:

Did you sniff your own fart before you posted this?

My post was not insulting, if you took it as insulting...thats ok.

[Ml33tninja]

Originally posted by kaay:

Difficulty is part of the intended game experience.
The mods you mentioned are nothing but cheats.
Cheats will make the game easy and thus you will never know what the original game was all about.
But thats not a problem, some players dont have the time/patience/desire to figure out how to overcome difficulty, so they use cheats, i guess calling them mods makes them feel better or something.
If you enjoy playing the game like that, its fine and dandy, you will probably never know what the Stalker games are about but who cares, as long as you are having fun its all good and thats all that matters.

First I disagree with everything you have posted. Based on your thoughts EVERY mod is a cheat. You know the original games(before the mods) have the ability to change the diffculty settings. Saying the Stalkers Series was about how tough it can be is a disservice to the franchise

[jV]

Originally posted by M l33t N1nja:

Originally posted by kaay:

Difficulty is part of the intended game experience.
The mods you mentioned are nothing but cheats.
Cheats will make the game easy and thus you will never know what the original game was all about.
But thats not a problem, some players dont have the time/patience/desire to figure out how to overcome difficulty, so they use cheats, i guess calling them mods makes them feel better or something.
If you enjoy playing the game like that, its fine and dandy, you will probably never know what the Stalker games are about but who cares, as long as you are having fun its all good and thats all that matters.

First I disagree with everything you have posted. Based on your thoughts EVERY mod is a cheat. You know the original games(before the mods) have the ability to change the diffculty settings. Saying the Stalkers Series was about how tough it can be is a disservice to the franchise

I've already tried to argue with this guy about mods and them improving the game. According to him, mods only "change" the game, not improve(aka change for the better), and playing the mods before playing the vanilla game is somehow a slap in the face to the Devs because it fixes some of the things they overlooked that are messed up in the game, but according to Kaay, the faults of the game are good and the Devs intended some of the aspects of the game to not be fun...... kind of a fanboyish way of thinking to me.... This guy is a Stalker diehard who vehemently sticks by his opinions. I may not agree with him, but I respect his opinions nonetheless.

[HarrierDuBois]

After having played Misery 2 for some days now I have to say that difficulty is obviously a very subjective matter. Once you've got a decent shooter and armor I don't find it that much more difficult than vanilla or Complete. What it does do better is that it is way harder to get and maintain a decent outfit and the survival aspects like food, sleep, artifacts and drugs have been greatly improved. Above all trojanuch and aliundaio have done magic with the AI and/or a-life.