Would go back to Grand Prix World, if it worked!

[leemaskell1985]

You don't have to agree with me, but I'm interested to see if anyone else feels the same.

I feel like this game has been a missed opportunity. Overall the gameplay and racing are inferior to what I feel is the bench mark (GPW, still 15 years later), aside from a few obvious bugs in GPW.

In this game, the race pace is really inconsistent to the point where strategy tweaks make barely any difference, the whole system of part design and upgrades is also very clunky. The blue flag situation is extremely annoying, and also the weather system seems to barely make a difference to the tyres you have on.

Overall I am very disappointed with this game.

[Kraudi]

It's their first big pc game. The first FM I think also had potential but was not even close to nowadays. We have to give them credit for a great foudnation. Just wait a few patches and mod support.

No one likes bugs but manager games are really complex to make. Have to give them a little time to patch those bugs. They also need to test this out good enough to release the patches. Patching/balancing manager games is much more time consuming than patch an ego shooter.

Also the newer pole position games hasn't been solid after their 3rd game. But MM is really a lot better than that. As I said. Excellent foundation. Just give them a little time.

Btw GPW was Edward Grabowski's 3rd game. So lots of experience.

Back in the days I played F1 Manager Pro a lot. That was a pure simulation. But I'm 30 now so I have not the time for all the little details where I played a season in a month. MM fits that perfectly for me. It's a perfect mix between casual and not too casual. Also nowadays a company just would not sell enough copies if they made a hardcore simulation. More and more people prefer the more casual way and also there were much more f1 fans in the 90s than today.

[Kristina]

um no, GPW is inferior to this game and was pretty dull.

[polloloco]

well i dont know yet which i like better over the long-run but there are ways to play gpw today
played it on win 7 just recently so maybe give google a search

[colindegreat]

gpw doesnt work on windows 10, tried a while ago, this sim is awesome anyway though and will get better with patches and modding as was GPW need the same

[Idah]

The race part can be awesome with some fixes on the AI. What disapoint me is the managment, conception, recruit..., which is very poor compared to GPW (if i remember correctly)

[MaceUK-83]

GPW is the best F1 manger game ever made. I'm on season 5 in Motorsport manager and although its very addictive I feel that its missing somthing. Designing new parts is frustrating and it seems like you loose the knowledge built up over previous seasons. Starting a new season is like starting all over again apart from you staff and factory facilities. The devs mantioned that your parts carry over from season to season but I havent seen that and I have noticed a few obvious bugs. TBH I dont think the races are simulated properly it all feels very Iphoney.

With all that said I like the weather system, the promortion system and the fact that you can upgrade your HQ.

[Andy1966uk2]

I think we have to give the guys time. THe platform is there and along with constructivre feedback and a eager mod community, this game could eb fantastic.
I have palyed ALL the motor racign sims, even wrote one myself, and I think this has fair more potential as any ofthe previous games... just give them time.... in 6 months time we can see where we are.... btw Need the Workshop up and running ASAP :)
If like the mobile app there are regualr updates and if they have been reading the posts in this forum, we should be ok... btw this was my effort
http://www.f1managers.com/grand-prix-team-manager/

[Kempo2001]

Originally posted by colindegreat:

gpw doesnt work on windows 10, tried a while ago, this sim is awesome anyway though and will get better with patches and modding as was GPW need the same

It does work on windows 10 now. There was a mod update released by a fan for it to work on win 10, although i would stay with this game as it has potential.

[mravac_kid]

I agree that GPW (and GPM2, too) is quite a bit better, and I'd add Pole Position (AKA Team F1) to that (I never got enough into F1 Manager Pro to give it a decent view, but I'm pretty sure it woudl qualify), as they are all a fair bit more detailed and go a lot more in-depth, but MM is a fun, light, fast game and it runs much smoother than some of the old ones. My biggest gripe is the poor car behaviour on-track, but that's pretty much the same with any other F1 manager game.
All in all, yes, if GPW ran on modern Windows systems I'd play the heck out of it (in fact, I still play GPM2 now and then :) ) but I don't consider MM a failure, but rather a good start for a potential future series of games. God knows we've been waiting for a half-decent, playable manager sim for decades... :)
Andy, a shame you stopped yours, we've seen far too many projects like that one drop off the map. :-/

[Kershek]

I agree, give them some time to improve on this game. It's pretty incredible for a first release, considering the quality level at day 0 of some other games we've seen recently.

[Silverangel]

i disagree with GPW. Never liked it and didnt felt a good Manager game.

The good ones for me was GPM2 and F1 Pro and the Old "Pole Position" from Ascon(Ascaron) as well.

But ALL of this games had a big Problem for me: You just needed 3-4 Seasons to be the BEST and after then you can close the game or restart cause without really big mistaktes no one can get you.

All of that games were different in what they did and HOW they did. They had their Problems too! They had BUGS too! Sure, less at they came out, but no patches at all as this games came out.
I like MM too for what they do and HOW they do. I dont want and need the "Full" in-depth in every Part of the Game. Here and there little bit more Depth would be good anyway, but its not that i need it so hard :)

The more Depth these games get the less players beside the Hardcoregamers will be interested in these games anyway. Thats some important point people should think about.
I like it to be harder too, and i like more depth too, but when both coming too much into such game, the less Players are interested in the Game and whats the consequence?
Less sells and more less interesting in such games from developers and players too(cause u dont get new players into this genre).

So maybe some players should put down their expectations a bit and try to have more fun with what u get (bugs excluded for sure ;)). Try more enjoying what u have and then maybe we get bit more later on with little steps.
Putting the Bar too high wouldnt help in any way.

[MistaHMimE]

Originally posted by leemaskell1985:

You don't have to agree with me, but I'm interested to see if anyone else feels the same.

I feel like this game has been a missed opportunity. Overall the gameplay and racing are inferior to what I feel is the bench mark (GPW, still 15 years later), aside from a few obvious bugs in GPW.

In this game, the race pace is really inconsistent to the point where strategy tweaks make barely any difference, the whole system of part design and upgrades is also very clunky. The blue flag situation is extremely annoying, and also the weather system seems to barely make a difference to the tyres you have on.

Overall I am very disappointed with this game.

First of all it is a whole new series so don't expect it to be completely to you're wishes straight away and 2nd of all then go back playing some 25 year old game and just keep it shut you are clearly the one that has a "missed opportunity" cause if you were comparing you mentioned F1 manager 2000 aswell but you don't so have fun playing ya 25 year old games (but i am ure they don't work on ya current windows).

[jcoops96]

Grand Prix World does work on Windows 10, and modders have made huge strides on it, you can play with 25-18-15 points system, or as I have done, start in 98 and change in 2003 to 10-8-6

Mods and mod help can be found here, I loved that game and have tested GPRM which is fairly infamous these days. There are many improvements that could be made in this game in terms of complexity etc, but I genuinely believe it to be a fantastic game and a great start to a franchinse.

http://www.forum.gpracegames.com/

[Kraudi]

Here is a Pole Position (1996 Ascaron) Mod for Season 16 I made.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yisyc48wyii3hv3/AAABIotUDYJMnt2tsUSqIpJ9a?dl=0

Only thing not changed are team/driver images (We cannot open the file)
Rest should be changed. Year is 2016 and I added € (Because I'm from Germany)

May some of you like it :) Game can be played with DosBox

[Dr. Diahrrea]

Originally posted by Kraudi:

It's their first big pc game. The first FM I think also had potential but was not even close to nowadays. We have to give them credit for a great foudnation. Just wait a few patches and mod support.

No one likes bugs but manager games are really complex to make. Have to give them a little time to patch those bugs. They also need to test this out good enough to release the patches. Patching/balancing manager games is much more time consuming than patch an ego shooter.

Also the newer pole position games hasn't been solid after their 3rd game. But MM is really a lot better than that. As I said. Excellent foundation. Just give them a little time.

Btw GPW was Edward Grabowski's 3rd game. So lots of experience.

Back in the days I played F1 Manager Pro a lot. That was a pure simulation. But I'm 30 now so I have not the time for all the little details where I played a season in a month. MM fits that perfectly for me. It's a perfect mix between casual and not too casual. Also nowadays a company just would not sell enough copies if they made a hardcore simulation. More and more people prefer the more casual way and also there were much more f1 fans in the 90s than today.

I disagree. There is a reason why FM succeded where Fifa Manager failed. Fifa manager was much more arcade/casual and less realistic, FM tried to be realistic in any way it could. I wouldn't buy a MM sequel because of the unrealistic/fantasy approach.