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Rush Dec 10, 2016 @ 11:23am
"worst car on the grid"
So i´m in my third season with ZRT in "F3" and for the life of me i do not understand why my car never improves relative to the field.
It´s been the worst car on the grid for all of the seasons even though i build new parts all the time, always buys the best pre-season-parts and take the offers from the mail about improving stuff.

I think the only category right now where i´m not worst in is suspension, i´m 9th in that lol.

I have the best drivers by far (Rodrigez and Valdes), third best staff and usually the best sponsors.

What am i doing wrong?

Oh and i´ve also improved factory and bought telemetry building i think, the one which allows your staff to work on 4 things instead of 2.
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kesat Dec 10, 2016 @ 11:57am 
Because the ranking doesn't tell you anything about the differences in each rank. If you lack 100 performance compared to the 9th rank and your next upgrade improves the car by 20... then you are still 10th rank. Even if you are "average" in performance, you may be still just the 8th rank depending on the actual situation ;)

And regarding the next season's car: A car in each season starts with about the same performance than your previous highest performance parts in each of the categories (+some modifiers). If you want to catch up with other teams you should try to maximize your upgrades within a season as much as possible.

Last edited by kesat; Dec 10, 2016 @ 11:58am
I had worst car in my game still won 3 races in a season, tactics overcome raw performance sometimes, get weather center leveled up and those wet races you can make up 60-90 seconds with informed pit stops.

Also just keep working on parts, it takes years to close the tech gap.
Last edited by Commissioner Jean Claude Van Dan; Dec 10, 2016 @ 2:37pm
Nissan Man Dec 10, 2016 @ 9:10pm 
I am playing as ZRT as well and just moved up to the world championship. 4 years in the Euro series and 4 years in the asia-pacific series. in my last year in the asia pacific series i finally had the best car on the grid. There is a good guide explaining the mechanics to improving your car. I would take a look at it. But like it has been said above it will take years to close real ground with the bottom teams. My suggestion is to get on top line driver (Valdes is average at best and has lots of baggage), fill the second car with a decent paying driver, and have development driver as the reserve. When developing parts never develop the same exact parts twice, that is a waste of time and money. Make sure your top driver always has the best stuff once the reliability is high enough. I would stay away from risky parts early in the year but later in the year make sure you mark some parts with all the best stats that carry over and if they are a high risk level do not use them. I generally avoid using risky parts because it is generally not worth it in my opinion.
Rush Dec 11, 2016 @ 1:05am 
Originally posted by Quick 5ilv3r AKA hydrargyrum:
I had worst car in my game still won 3 races in a season, tactics overcome raw performance sometimes, get weather center leveled up and those wet races you can make up 60-90 seconds with informed pit stops.

Also just keep working on parts, it takes years to close the tech gap.
Yea winning the odd race and getting the odd podiums i´ve done. But that´s completely different from actually winning the championship.

My third season now it actually feels like my car has gotten worse for some reason.
Right now i even struggle to break into the top 10 and i don´t think i will hit the 3rd in the constructors that was the goal.

I might re-start the whole thing and think more about who to hire, when to hire and what parts to build.
Rush Dec 11, 2016 @ 1:07am 
Originally posted by nissan-man:
I am playing as ZRT as well and just moved up to the world championship. 4 years in the Euro series and 4 years in the asia-pacific series. in my last year in the asia pacific series i finally had the best car on the grid. There is a good guide explaining the mechanics to improving your car. I would take a look at it. But like it has been said above it will take years to close real ground with the bottom teams. My suggestion is to get on top line driver (Valdes is average at best and has lots of baggage), fill the second car with a decent paying driver, and have development driver as the reserve. When developing parts never develop the same exact parts twice, that is a waste of time and money. Make sure your top driver always has the best stuff once the reliability is high enough. I would stay away from risky parts early in the year but later in the year make sure you mark some parts with all the best stats that carry over and if they are a high risk level do not use them. I generally avoid using risky parts because it is generally not worth it in my opinion.
Some great tips there mate, thank you.



King_0_Hell Dec 11, 2016 @ 3:10am 
Originally posted by Quick 5ilv3r AKA hydrargyrum:
I had worst car in my game still won 3 races in a season, tactics overcome raw performance sometimes, get weather center leveled up and those wet races you can make up 60-90 seconds with informed pit stops.

Also just keep working on parts, it takes years to close the tech gap.

This is so true. You're not going to take a poor performing team and turn them into championship winners with just one season. It takes time to create that winning car.

The bit about tactics and weather is very true. The right plans and pit stops at the right time can make all the difference in a race.

Using my Archer BMR team as an example, we managed to snag 2nd place in the champion in the final race of the first season from Eastwood Racing because I was able to make better calls regarding the changing weather conditions and utilising safety cars during the season.

We snagged it by a single point in the end, thanks in no small part to one of their drivers (I think it was Arbeloa) having a crash about halfway through the final race.

As a result, when I finally sit down to start my development on next years car, I'm in a much better position to truely close the gap between myself and the other teams and hopefully continue with some consistent results
Grote Thijzer Dec 11, 2016 @ 5:23am 
I have played as Predador, ZRT and BMR. So, the 10th, 9th and 8th cars on the grid and I'm not surprised you never made much headway in the car's ranking if ou weren't getting the most out of maximizing the performance that gets carried over from season to season.

If I remember correctly ZRT starts with parts that have around 30 performance points. Predator is behind you with parts under 10. So they're at least one avage component beneath you. Then there is a huge gap to BMR in 8th who has parts of around 120 points.

That means you have to increase your part's performance by at least 100 points just to get up to BMR's starting level.

Nissan Man Dec 11, 2016 @ 8:31am 
Below is a link to Zippy's guide for car development:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=800653340

This has a pretty good explaination on the mechanics of car development.

Like any management game this is all about cash flow. the more money you have coming in the more you can spend on developing your team.
Rush Dec 11, 2016 @ 8:54am 
Originally posted by Schortnagel:
I have played as Predador, ZRT and BMR. So, the 10th, 9th and 8th cars on the grid and I'm not surprised you never made much headway in the car's ranking if ou weren't getting the most out of maximizing the performance that gets carried over from season to season.

If I remember correctly ZRT starts with parts that have around 30 performance points. Predator is behind you with parts under 10. So they're at least one avage component beneath you. Then there is a huge gap to BMR in 8th who has parts of around 120 points.

That means you have to increase your part's performance by at least 100 points just to get up to BMR's starting level.
Holy crap, well that explains things :D

I think what i´ll do is restart the game, maybe focus less on having two number 1 drivers and excellent staff and put down more money in parts and HQ.

One thing that´s absolutely brutal as well with ZRT is you start the season with 40% reliability.
Takes me half the season just to reliably run races..
SmilesLikeJoker Dec 11, 2016 @ 9:57am 
If you can squeeze in building any illegal part that is better than what you race with, build it and just leave it in the garage. The max stat is what carries over each season, and it pulls it from the best parts illegal or not. You can make some decent jumps that way.
Grote Thijzer Dec 11, 2016 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by Rush:
I think what i´ll do is restart the game, maybe focus less on having two number 1 drivers and excellent staff and put down more money in parts and HQ.

One thing that´s absolutely brutal as well with ZRT is you start the season with 40% reliability.
Takes me half the season just to reliably run races..

Yes, it's definitely a good idea to focus on parts. I can also recommend Ibrahim Croshaw as a developer. He has pretty decent stats, an absolutely brilliant set of known parts and he doesn't cost too much.

As for buildings, go for Factory level 2 first, that'll help you loads with the reliability.

Then get a scouting center and find Valbuga Kumar. She's a pay driver who is on par with Valdés. As for Valdés... he's probably the reason why I think ZRT is a harder team to get going than Predator. He has a three year contract, his salary and his break clause are extortionate, he's annoying to deal with and he's not nearly as talanted as you need him to be.

Half way through my second season I demoted him to reserve and hired Chica Balcazar (another reason to get the scouting facility) to replace him is a main driver. That got me a couple of front row starts that helped to secure first place and promotion to APS.

If you go down that same route do keep an eye on your sponsors. Quickly promote Valdes in between races whenever a deal runs out. His 100% marketability will help you get better deals. It's all he's really good for. Then remeber to demote him again before the next race.If you're really lucky he may get so frustrated that he starts looking for work and find sombebody who will buy out his contract. ;)
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Date Posted: Dec 10, 2016 @ 11:23am
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