Setup for high speed or fast cornering?

[bufu]

Is there only one perfect Setup or could you go for ar perfect setup for high speed and another perfect for cornering?

[Racer D]

When the smileys are Green or Purple then they shouldn't complain.

Laptimes in practice aren't really superrelevant anyway I think.

[Gazz]

Its too bad, practice is too short and useless in terms of getting a fast lap in. You cant really rely on practice lap times, by the time its race time, its too late to tweak the settings.

Ive had execllent speed balance, but driver complaining of no drive out the corners, so i had to lower the gear ratio, tweak the downforce to keep the speed balance right, setup was then 99%, for there only being 6 settings, it looks like it could go quite in depth if you could actually get some proper testing in, i.e empty track

[Racer D]

Since Speed Balance is a balance between Acceleration and Top Speed it seems very odd that you have to adjust gear ratios to get back at the same acceleration:speed ratio.

That doesnt make sense at all.

Might you have been wrong there in reading the feedback of the driver?

If I have Purple Speed Balance and Yellow downforce, I will change downforce to make it purple so I have to readjust Speed Balance to et it back in the spot that made it purple.

But the driver complaint will always have been about downforce, not about speed balance or gear ratios (as that was purple).

In fact, if speed balance is good or not, they will say: ratios are awesome or they suck. But when Speed Balance is purple they will never ever ask to change ratios.

[Silverangel]

Dont hear at the Radio messages :) You dont need them to make the Setup. And some are already wrong /reversed anyway.

[holdmybeer]

I think there may be some truth about having different setups. Here's a reply from one of the devs during a recent AMA on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MotorsportManagerPC/comments/5ehygb/ama_im_rob_from_playsport_games_ask_me_anything/daciuy5/

[Silverangel]

It just says whats normal, When you max Acceleration you will have more speed out of corners.
But it doesnt matter cause as he already says, best laptimes you get out with the 100% Setup.

Its just nice to see the difference to make car fast Accelerate or Max Topspeed and such things.
But for Good/best Setup build it doesnt matter. Just that you come close to 100% as possible.
Hes confirming it with that, that it doesnt matter where you set the Sliders as long you get the maximal %.

[bufu]

But you could get more Accelerate and hold the sliders at same position if u lower ratio and change tyre camber/pressure!
So you could get better max % with other options or not?

[zippy]

The dev seemed to contradict themselves somewhat in that forum.

Is it even possible to get all purple Smiley's with two different setups for the same driver & track?

[Colin The Grey]

Yes it is - I've even had 100% with 2 setups on the same driver...

One setup was at 50 Gear ratio, the other at 44.

[DalWill]

I can't see any difference when I set car 1 and 2 completely differently. Both had speed balance around same spot. So I tested different gear settings in race. You would think you would actually see some difference in top speed or acceleration out of corners. But nope, top speeds are 416 and 414 kph, and acceleration is very samel. Gear ratios are 69% and 50%. I still think this effect is completely bogus.

[kesat]

Originally posted by MayhemMike:

you guys sure about the smiley faces? Yesterday I gave them a low wing high top speed set up at a high speed track. They asked for more wing and better cornering. Long story short the cars were 2 secs slower with their desired setup than with my initial one.

Maybe your driver was slowed down by your opponents during his lap? That's usually the main issue during training...

Originally posted by patootie:

I think there may be some truth about having different setups. Here's a reply from one of the devs during a recent AMA on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MotorsportManagerPC/comments/5ehygb/ama_im_rob_from_playsport_games_ask_me_anything/daciuy5/

Actually, he didn't say anything about different setups for the same optimal setting. It simply doesn't matter how you achieve the same balance regarding each component.

He was just refering to "ignore" the optimal setting and e.g. go for faster acceleration instead of top speed.

[Silverangel]

Originally posted by Colin The Grey:

Yes it is - I've even had 100% with 2 setups on the same driver...

One setup was at 50 Gear ratio, the other at 44.

You can have "different" Setup sliders set for it, yeah. But it doesnt matter. Thats what people still not understand.
The Devs said it that the 100% is needed for the best laptímes (how you reach it, doesnt matter), The gamefiles says it, and enough testings said it too.
But when you still think it does matter have fun with more testing it :)

@Kesat: i already explained there: http://steamcommunity.com/app/415200/discussions/0/152390648095746598/?ctp=2#c152390648096236253
They still not understand it :)


But a last try, maybe some more understand it:
In Setup screen, the left side (sliders/buttons) are ONLY affecting the Setup on the Right side of the Screen (there where you go for the % and smiley faces).
The LEFT side doesnt affect the Car performance.
Your Performance (and with that your Laptimes) are read out from the RIGHT side.
0,0 is taken from the left side with the sliders and buttons.

Thats why it doesnt matter if you hit a 100% Setup with low or with high Gear Ratio.

[Kristina]

The devs have already confirmed that setup options have ZERO impact on on how the car performs, sliders are there just to get smiley faces and speed bonus associated with them. There is no point wasting time debating this, as it is a confirmed fact.