Why is Panther Race Team (Fake Red Bull) so ****?

[rory]

They were getting podiums and wins, 4 seasons later, they came 6th in the asia pacific, the second tier.....
And I have watched youtubers play the game, Panther is doing badly in their saves too.

[Ohayoghurt]

Compared to the other teams amongst the expected top 5 in the WMC, Panther may be in the weakest position long-term;

- Steinmann start with the best car and especially the best engine, which means that if the player starts in the WMC they are destined to win the first season (an auto-simulated WMC may go against them however).

- Rossini and Kitano both start with the Road Car Factory, ensuring that neither team is too broke to develop the car due to the huge income generated. It doesn't solve Kitano's short-term problems but should ensure that they don't relegate if controlled by the AI.

- Even Windsor may have better long-term prospects if all teams are AI controlled, because they probably have the 2nd best car at the start due to how important that engine is, but lack the driver pairing to take full advantage of it for now.

[Tig_green]

Originally posted by RCM™ #FORZASEB #FORZAFERRARI:

They were getting podiums and wins, 4 seasons later, they came 6th in the asia pacific, the second tier.....
And I have watched youtubers play the game, Panther is doing badly in their saves too.

And this was what season? Though it would be good that the big names remain in the highest level, this is still fantasy after all.

[Carbune]

Originally posted by JayOTT:

- Even Windsor may have better long-term prospects if all teams are AI controlled, because they probably have the 2nd best car at the start due to how important that engine is, but lack the driver pairing to take full advantage of it for now.

Generally they still seem to fall apart after the first couple of seasons though, particularly if both drivers leave. In all of my longer runs they ended up losing a lot of ground, even being demoted in my main run.

The more peculiar thing is that Chariot (Marussia) has shockingly strong long run potential if they can survive the first season. In both of my longer runs they stuck with Stevens and Merhi, yet both times they got in among the top 5 teams, even taking 3 poles with Merhi in 2022 in my main save and genuinely outdeveloping me.

[tullaian]

In my game it is 2027 and I've been in the WMC for 3 years now and Panther is a top 3 team still with a strong car and good driver lineup seemingly well ensconsed in the WMC.

Steinmann were super strong in 2025, starting to fade in 2026 and in 2027 are actually sitting down in 5th in the table after the first few races. Rossini have come second , 1st and 1st and are the team with all the pace they've had like 19poles in a row now. Panther have come 2nd in each of those seasons by virtue of good average points per driver but only have won maybe 1 or 2 races each season.

Windsor, Rezzo , Chariot are all back markers though Chariot has moved up in my current season to mid table.

Kitano has been variable up high occasionally but, haven't really had a consistently strong season.

[rory]

First year.

Originally posted by Tig_green:

Originally posted by RCM™ #FORZASEB #FORZAFERRARI:

They were getting podiums and wins, 4 seasons later, they came 6th in the asia pacific, the second tier.....
And I have watched youtubers play the game, Panther is doing badly in their saves too.

And this was what season? Though it would be good that the big names remain in the highest level, this is still fantasy after all.

[Tig_green]

Originally posted by RCM™ #FORZASEB #FORZAFERRARI:

First year.

Originally posted by Tig_green:

And this was what season? Though it would be good that the big names remain in the highest level, this is still fantasy after all.

I meant on what season they fall into Asia series (tier 2)?

[rory]

3rd season.

Originally posted by Tig_green:

Originally posted by RCM™ #FORZASEB #FORZAFERRARI:

First year.

I meant on what season they fall into Asia series (tier 2)?

[Tig_green]

Originally posted by RCM™ #FORZASEB #FORZAFERRARI:

3rd season.

Originally posted by Tig_green:

I meant on what season they fall into Asia series (tier 2)?

Ok, that is pretty early. But hey, it's possible with bad choices and maybe some bad luck. Though I understand it can be immersion braking if you aim for realism (if using mods, because Panther team is a fantasy team and it's not that weird to find it in tier 2 ;) )

[Inardesco]

Well, I've seen Predator promote itself to ASPC and saw the top teams in the ERS go to the back end of the grid. Things can change quite easily. Scuderia Rossini and Steinmann both topped the standings in my first 3 seasons, then they got drivers that either were capped at 3 stars or declining rapidly and sunk to the midfield. Now that Scuderia Rossini has a strong driver again things might get interesting next year when I won't develop my car to let the other teams catch up a bit.