RANT: Grandpa Honors?! The f..? (potential spoilers)

[Peak Imouto]

OK, so the spirit of my beloved grand pa just showed up one night and basically told me I suck.

I have all my skills maxed. Friends with most people in town. Married with fully upgraded house. Reached level 120 of mine, unlocked sewers, went to floor 25 of the skull cave, have all my tools upgraded (except hoe which I kept at steel). I have more than half of the community center restored, and I have even caught most of the legendary fish.

Yet my grandpa just showed up and gave me a 3/13 score, shamed me and said he regretted leaving the farm to me in his will.

The old fart spent all that energy to disobey the laws of physics to speak to me beyond the grave just to take a huge dump on all my achievements and complain that I havent completed his "honors" that I was never privy to knowing anything about.

If he wanted to give me a quest, he should have given me the details in his will! He cant just show up after two years and expect me to telepathically have known what he wanted me to accomplish with his groty-♥♥♥ shack he spent like, what, 70 years on yet accomplishing nothing compared to me? How was I supposed to know what he wanted of me? How was I supposed to know he was even judging me?

I came from a office job, no experience in farming what so ever, yet after a mere two years, I have developed his shed into a mansion, made more than a million gold from crops and animals, became an expert miner, a legendary fisherman, a slime-killing, skeleton bashing hero worthy of a final fantasy game AND a respectable member of the community that has helped restore most of the towns broken infrastructure... Yet he shows and take a huge dump on all that because I wasn't also a psychic medium capable of reading his hidden wishes from beyond the veil?!

HE DIDN'T EVEN EXPLAIN WHAT I HAD DONE WRONG!!

Grandpa is a ♥♥♥♥ing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

EDIT: Well, it seems gramps has had a change of heart!

Patch notes 1.5: http://steamcommunity.com/games/413150/announcements/detail/842542556770852896

I personally would have preferred if they somehow made it obvious what our goals were, or maybe gave us a halfway check. Like "I am worried/glad blah blah about your progress, but you still need to blah blah". Maybe even change the time limit to the end of year 3 instead of the start of it :)

[Moonraven83]

And yet it ruins everything.
Even if you get all the stuff in the coming years, you will always have this little voice in your
head telling you, you failled to live up to grandpa's standards.
Best the dev can do is to make grandpa judge you every 2 years or never.

[Liquidsnakehpks-joa]

yeah not going to bother about this , i plan to play a second playthrough after i am done with this one

[Proteus]

Well, I guess Grandpa has a little bit of a jerk ...
on the one hand he loves to see you become a dropout of the performance-oriented society in the big city (and helps you by giving you the littler farm) ... on the other hand he (also) judges you on the profit you made with the farm and is only really satisfied if you turn the farm a corporation bigger than anything in the whole region ... something that he himself didn´t even scratch at, considering the shape of his land when you took over

:D

[Peak Imouto]

That's it. I've buit six lightning rods on top of his tacky shrine. Hope it gets hit by lightning. Bastard.

Imagine I once felt for the old geezer.

[Caprontos]

I feel this is like a newgame challange feature more then anything.. Something to go for in co-op or just when you wanna see if you can get it all done super efficently.. its probably doable if you do some planning.. Otherwise it can be ignored..

Grandpa was a workaholic (according to Lewis) so don't expect to be up to his standard unless you are willing to also overwork yourself..

I don't think he expected people to do this on there first playthrough.. Cause you don't know enough to do it on the first playthrough.. but on a second you could be a lot more efficent..

Though I am not against it being made babymode so I can get it do to - Perhaps have it every 2 years and the color of the candles is different the first check.. So its still a 2 year challange.. but you can get all the things done over time regardless..


Also I'd like a little sence (like game end cut scene) for each honor you achived).. Or just based off the requirements..

[josseriot]

I'm laughing because I was rather ticked by this event too. I'm starting a new year, still learning the game, still befriending people, still figuring out what makes gold and what doesn't and my beloved of grandpappy shows up to give me a fricking grade? I got 4/10 and a completely passive-aggressive "I'm sure you're doing the best you can" send-off. Yeah. I wasn't amused.

I love how someone upthread said the key is to befriend people as granddad says that's so important yet someone else says making 1mil gold gets you 5 honors. Hmmm.

Anyhow, at the time of this event, I had befriended 2/3 of the people in town--some, like the single youngsters and the kids I haven't gotten around to but I'm rocking with Linus, Pam, Evelyn, George, Clint, Lewis, Robin, Leah and Gus. Kent too--he digs me enough that he gave me a charged battery pack out of the blue during Winter 2. I even made enough headway with emo basement dweller Sebastian (he even showed me his motorcycle and hinted he might take me afor a ride someday-- and no, that's not a euphemism) that he danced with me at the Flower Dance the following year. So I don't think dear old granddad valued friendships and all that as much as his deathbed posturing made it out.

[InPinkClover]

I am not NEARLY that far into the game. I know for a fact that I won't do well, but the way I look at it is that I'm learning the game. I plan to replay it when I finish this one, so I would hope to do better then. Or the time after that. I think sometimes we plan to go through a game one time and have it be perfect, but I'm not sure that's really possible with a game that has so many options, like this one. Maybe when I've played through 20 times Grandpa will be proud of me. lol

[YUsoMad]

I have yet to get to that point but I don’t think it’s only the grandpa, from my experience pretty much every NPC in this game is a sociopath!

I was trying to make friends during my first season but didn’t focus on anyone in particular. Than the Dance Festival came and I thought, no biggie I have 2 hearths with most of the girls, one of them will dance with me for sure. Needles to say I was rejected by every one of them. I guess it would have been fine but I think we all know how obnoxious the dialogue is: “Ew, no”, “Honestly I don’t want to dance with you” and so on. I find it funny that after getting rejected by every girl I tried with guys and they were a lot more timid with their dialogue.

This sole event made me decide that they aren’t really worth my time, I would rather focus on some other things. I mean, can you imagine moving into a, supposedly, friendly small village where everyone knows each other and instead of a friendliness you are met with a disgust and mild hostility just cause you asked for a simple dance? FeelsBadMan.

[KatherineOfSky]

I agree with all the points that have been made -- it really is a downer, especially for those of us who are perfectionists when it comes to games.

The worst part of it is that NOWHERE in game does it tell you:
1. The goals. (At the beginning of the game would have been helpful >.> )
2. The scoring (after you get to 3 years. Can't he even tell us what we got points for???)
3. If there is a way to improve on this score... (judgements in later years?)

These "goals" literally have to be looked up on a forum or a wiki somewhere. It's a really really stupid feature.

Personally I focused all my time and energy on the Community Center... which I thought was the entire point of the game. I completed it within the 3 years... and it's worth... 1 point.

I've never played this style of game before, and the first Spring I lost ALL my money because I bought seeds to 0g, and planted them... and then they all died at the end of the season. Did I give up and restart? No. I persevered, and crawled my way back up to have a wine-making empire!

And Grandpa barely thought I was adequate.... >.>

[tekkalord]

Originally posted by dubesor:

I got 8/13, 3 candles after my first playthrough. here is the point system:

(...)
Achievements and Progression:
at least 5 achievements = 1 point
at least 26 = 2 points
All 34 = 3 points
(...)

There's only 26 achievements on the in-game tab. That doesn't seem right.
Can't get 34 achievements when there's only 26 in game.

[PhoenixHunter89]

As I said before does he come back at year 6 to score you again? Anyone even that far?

[Kai]

Originally posted by приzрак:

I was pretty disappointed by the ending scene, too. I got only 5 Great Honors, although I hadn't finished only 2 rooms of the Community Center (7 missing items in total), maxed out my house, had 2 fully upgraded barns and coops, lots of money and friends, every single animal, got to the bottom of the mine... Grandpa said I had "tried my best, and he couldn't ask for more".

This is a quote from another thread, I don't know if it's true, though.

Originally posted by shuggs:

13/13 requirements are:


Millionaire achievement
A Complete Collection achievement
Master Angler achievement
Full shipment achievement
Mystery of the Stardrops achievement
Local Legend achievement
Living Large achievement and then get married
Earn 25 total skill points
Have 10 heart friendship with 10 people

(The Millionaire achievement is worth 5 great honors. The less money you earn, the fewer great honors you get)

I summarized this from the people on reddit who have datamined the game.

[Kai]

Originally posted by dubesor:

I got 8/13, 3 candles after my first playthrough. here is the point system:

Money Earned:

100k gold = 1 point

200k gold = 2 points

300k gold = 3 points

500k gold =- 4 points

1 million + = 5 points

Achievements and Progression:

at least 5 achievements = 1 point

at least 26 = 2 points

All 34 = 3 points

Found all the Stardrops = 1 point

Earned 25 or more total skill levels = 1 point
Social:

Preserved the Community Center = 1 point (not 100% sure whether this means restored or just not torn down)

Married with a fully upgraded house = 1 point

Have a certain level of friendship with at least 10 people (not clear without further digging what the number in the code translates to in hearts, I'm guessing between 2 and 5) = 1 point.

For calculating the candles, less than 4 points is 1 candle, 4-7 is 2, 8-11 is 3, 12 or more is 4.

You copy-pasted this straight from reddit (or was this your post?). But it was said to be partially incorrect a few posts below. The "Achievement and Progress" section appears to be wrong.

[Face Johnson]

Yeah...Grampa's judgement was kinda a huge turn off for me too.

I mean...I thought I was doing pretty well for myself.

Huge House, married, two kids. Green house with the beginnings of an ancient fruit winery.

Then he just shows up, gives me a 3/13, and tells me I suck.

Thanks a lot grampa.

[Kai]

Originally posted by GrandTickler:

"Earn 25 skill points"



wut?....

What's the problem?