Best way to farm prismatic shard?

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[Jonathan J. O'Neill]

Burglar's Ring and killing Shadow Shamans and Brutes in the mines. They're easier to kill than Serpents and Mummies in Skull Caves

Have a bunch of Rainbow Trout ponds at level 9.

Farming Omni Geodes and breaking them open.

[LetTheBodyFall]

Go as deep as you can in skull caverns on the best luck days + speed and luck buffs. Start bombing iridium as much as you can. I usually get about 3-4 on an average day, 1-2 on a crap day. In my last run I brought home 8 shards.

Don't be afraid to pass out in the SC. You'll only lose 1k gold. As long as you don't die, you're fine.

[ToeTicklr]

Quarry.
Rainbow trout ponds.
I'm on year 6 and I get around a prismatic shard every year from the quarry, But I have got none from my trout pond. Skull caverns also is great, depending on how far in game you are.

[Numeriku]

Skull Cavern/iridium ore nodes imo.

[CloudSeeker]

Skull Cavern. Use stairs to get down to floor +100 and then just start to bomb the place. You will get at least 3-6 shards on a day with good luck.

[Syncrios]

mods

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Originally posted by Syncrios:

mods

i'd prefer to earn it instead of cheating

[Jonathan J. O'Neill]

Originally posted by Emichu:

Originally posted by Syncrios:

mods

i'd prefer to earn it instead of cheating

Mods don't necessarily mean cheating, just so you know.

In my opinion, if a mod allows you to get an item but you have to work for it or it gives you another way of getting something with a small chance, it's not cheating.

For example, if a mod adds Prismatic Shards to the train's drop-table with a very low chance of getting it, it's not cheating. It's just another means of possibly getting one

If a boss monster mod gives me a better chance to get a prismatic shard, through a very tough fight, that's not cheating.

If Stardew Valley Expanded allows me to buy one from the Junimo village for 100,000 Gold, then I have to earn that money to buy one.

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by Jonathan J. O'Neill:

Originally posted by Emichu:

i'd prefer to earn it instead of cheating

Mods don't necessarily mean cheating, just so you know.

In my opinion, if a mod allows you to get an item but you have to work for it or it gives you another way of getting something with a small chance, it's not cheating.

For example, if a mod adds Prismatic Shards to the train's drop-table with a very low chance of getting it, it's not cheating. It's just another means of possibly getting one

If a boss monster mod gives me a better chance to get a prismatic shard, through a very tough fight, that's not cheating.

If Stardew Valley Expanded allows me to buy one from the Junimo village for 100,000 Gold, then I have to earn that money to buy one.

Pretty sure that mods that give you rare items counts as cheating. You can have your opinion, but you are also wrong. Its the item mule argument from Dark Souls 1 all over again. Yes. Just because you CAN get every single item at the starting levels does not mean it isn't cheating when just spawning them in. By having a mod that give a character all items in the game so they can later just give out all items to everyone is cheating. If you really want to have that end game gear and pvp with it at level 16, you should actually do the hard work required. Not just spawn it in.

Try to justify it all you want, but what you are talking about is cheating.

[Jonathan J. O'Neill]

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

Originally posted by Jonathan J. O'Neill:

Mods don't necessarily mean cheating, just so you know.

In my opinion, if a mod allows you to get an item but you have to work for it or it gives you another way of getting something with a small chance, it's not cheating.

For example, if a mod adds Prismatic Shards to the train's drop-table with a very low chance of getting it, it's not cheating. It's just another means of possibly getting one

If a boss monster mod gives me a better chance to get a prismatic shard, through a very tough fight, that's not cheating.

If Stardew Valley Expanded allows me to buy one from the Junimo village for 100,000 Gold, then I have to earn that money to buy one.

Pretty sure that mods that give you rare items counts as cheating. You can have your opinion, but you are also wrong. Its the item mule argument from Dark Souls 1 all over again. Yes. Just because you CAN get every single item at the starting levels does not mean it isn't cheating when just spawning them in. By having a mod that give a character all items in the game so they can later just give out all items to everyone is cheating. If you really want to have that end game gear and pvp with it at level 16, you should actually do the hard work required. Not just spawn it in.

Try to justify it all you want, but what you are talking about is cheating.

If you say so. You see cheating, I see alternate ways that still don't guarantee you a drop, just another way of getting something. A shame that you feel that mods are cheats because it changes the vanilla experience but, then again, it's a solo/co-op game so the point is moot, regardless. You can play your way and I can play mine and we both have fun. That's all that matters in the grand scheme of things.

[ToeTicklr]

Originally posted by ItzViana_Playz:

uhh cloudseeker, you are technically attempting to start an argument out of nowhere-

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by Jonathan J. O'Neill:

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

Pretty sure that mods that give you rare items counts as cheating. You can have your opinion, but you are also wrong. Its the item mule argument from Dark Souls 1 all over again. Yes. Just because you CAN get every single item at the starting levels does not mean it isn't cheating when just spawning them in. By having a mod that give a character all items in the game so they can later just give out all items to everyone is cheating. If you really want to have that end game gear and pvp with it at level 16, you should actually do the hard work required. Not just spawn it in.

Try to justify it all you want, but what you are talking about is cheating.

If you say so. You see cheating, I see alternate ways that still don't guarantee you a drop, just another way of getting something. A shame that you feel that mods are cheats because it changes the vanilla experience but, then again, it's a solo/co-op game so the point is moot, regardless. You can play your way and I can play mine and we both have fun. That's all that matters in the grand scheme of things.

It is still cheating. You are free to cheat with mods ofc. This is not competitive and sometimes you just want to skip steps that you find annoying. Problem I have is when you try to justify it to yourself and not call it cheating.

It is cheating because you add functionality and give out rewards for something that there shouldn't be such a reward for. Remember that a prismatic shard is a end game item. Loved by almost everyone and can give you the best weapon in the game for free. If you add so that you can just dig it up or get it in the mail. It is cheating because your point of doing so was to get it more easily.

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by ItzViana_Playz:

Originally posted by ItzViana_Playz:

uhh cloudseeker, you are technically attempting to start an argument out of nowhere-

Not at all. I find a problem with people that try to make me believe they are not trying to lie to themselves. Do you know what Al Capone said when he was asked if he was making money on crimes? He said "I am just a businessman that satisfy a public demand". I expect gangsters like Al Capone to try and lie about what they are saying, but don't tell me that cheating isn't cheating when you know you just want to make things easier for yourself.

It is ofc fine to cheat in a game like this, but don't lie to me and expect I should buy it. It is just insulting my intelligence that you think I should buy it and accept it.

[Jonathan J. O'Neill]

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

Originally posted by Jonathan J. O'Neill:

If you say so. You see cheating, I see alternate ways that still don't guarantee you a drop, just another way of getting something. A shame that you feel that mods are cheats because it changes the vanilla experience but, then again, it's a solo/co-op game so the point is moot, regardless. You can play your way and I can play mine and we both have fun. That's all that matters in the grand scheme of things.

It is still cheating. You are free to cheat with mods ofc. This is not competitive and sometimes you just want to skip steps that you find annoying. Problem I have is when you try to justify it to yourself and not call it cheating.

It is cheating because you add functionality and give out rewards for something that there shouldn't be such a reward for. Remember that a prismatic shard is a end game item. Loved by almost everyone and can give you the best weapon in the game for free. If you add so that you can just dig it up or get it in the mail. It is cheating because your point of doing so was to get it more easily.

Wait, so you're saying that if a mod adds, a 2% chance of a drop on a boss monster that takes several minutes to kill compared to the .05% or .1% chance of normal monsters that you can kill in a couple of hits is cheating?

Or that the train has a .1% chance to drop a Prismatic shard?

In both of these examples, they're just as slow, if not slower. Only an alternate means of possibly getting one.

Why? Because it's not in the game by default? Does that mean the Item ID as a name thing isn't cheating because Concerned Ape knows about it and leaves it in because some people like it?

In my first example, killing a higher number of easy enemies is more efficient than trying to kill a high health boss monster, even though you have a greater chance to get the item.

In my second example, you might get six to eight trains a day. Meanwhile, you can kill dozens of enemies in that time frame. They're all alternate means to the same end. Means that are actually worse than the default way. But rather than having two sources of really bad drop rates you have three sources of really bad drop rates and a source of not-as-bad-but-still-bad drop rates tied to a difficult fight.

Are prismatic tool mods cheating? They're better than Iridium tools but require extremely hard to acquire items and a ton of cash to get. 5 Prismatic Bars that each require 1 Prismatic Shards. So, 1 Prismatic Shard and 100,000G to upgrade from Iridium by default, but I changed it to 500,00G to make it not so OP. I feel as though it's not cheating because you have to work for them. They're not just given to you.

If you honestly do think this is cheating, then you have a very different definition than most other people. Cheating is generally seen as getting a reward with little or no work involved. None of the examples I've listed really fall under that.

[LetTheBodyFall]

Originally posted by Generic David:

I bring few back from each trip to Skull cavern, I always go on "spirits are very happy today", use +Luck meal (ideally Spicy Eel as it gives you bonus speed as well), also make sure you finish Secret note 20 (if you're unsure, the solution is on wiki... the reward makes Skull cavern bit easier) and pack about 120 ordinary bombs and about 50 red ones. Also use totem to get to deset in the morning, obviously do not wait for bus and also take farm totem in case you run out of time. When in mines, do not waste time in upper levels, just place bombs in places where they destroy most rocks, use the jump holes anytime they are available, I usually get to around level 100 and so far I don't think I came back without one of those shards, especially over the level 100 they drop all the time, you just need to get deep.. when you run into a floor with "this level is full of monsters" and you are supposed to kill them all before getting a ladder, just craft a ladder yourself to get out, I think it costs 100 stone... same if you cannot find a ladder in a normal level and you'd have to run far to the remaining few rocks, just build a ladder instead and save time

the problem can be financial cost as I do tend to use about 70-100 bombs in a run, 100 bombs cost 60k gold at the Dwarf, not mentioning the big red ones... depends how far you are in the game financially

I definitely agree with all of this. If you can make a lot of crystalariums or just gather a lot of jade, you can trade all of those to the desert trader for ladders on Sundays. It saves time and money, and if you have a lot of spare solar and void essences, you can bring those to the Skull Cavern to make mega bombs. You'll be able to get gold ore there to craft said bombs so no worries there.

Be careful with eating food with buffs tho, because buffs from the dishes don't stack, e.g. if you eat Spicy Eel and then eat some Crab Cakes, the buffs you get from the crab cakes will override the spicy eel. It's better to have coffee + food buff and I highly suggest you do spicy eels. You can take food without any buffs for energy e.g. salads, cheese, iridium quality forage, etc.

If all goes well, you'd come home with at least 2 shards.