I removed my Casks

[Whirl]

It occurred to me that the Cellar was wasted space. Sure, you can put Casks in there and age wine, but my pllaystyle doesn't make casks viable - insteas I cleared them out and chose - preserve jars. It involved buying a LOT of wood.

I use kegs for mead, coffee, beer etc, but Preserve Jars make more GPD than wine, especially with the vast number of Strawberry plants I'm growing this spring. It's exactly the kind of plant you want jars for.

[sagevallant]

You can put processing machines outside the farm, so there's really no such thing as wasted space. I fill up the the desert with kegs. So there's no reason not to use Casks for something. There's no competition for the space.

[Whirl]

Well I did it because I dont' think Casks are worth the wait. I put everything where it fits, but that doesn't make Casks more useful in my cellar when I can pound out jam instead. It's got a higher GPD than iridium casks anyway.

Thing is that not only do preserves produce more GPD, they can have another set crammed in sooner and making even more money.

The main exception is Coffee (which is my current Greenhouse crop), Beer, Pale Ale and Mead, all of which have significantly reduced brew-times.

[sagevallant]

Gold Per Day just isn't a thing, though. Space is unlimited, you can have all the machines you want for the crops your produce. You just need to know where you're allowed to put them. Desert, Sewer, Quarry, anywhere that NPCs don't walk through.

It's all about how to maximize output from crop spaces, if you want to be a min/max player. Because the farmland is the only limited resource. Casks are double value on however many goods you run through them.

[Lenneth]

GPD is good, but it shouldn't be overused. For example, GPD for starfruits or ancient fruit jams are better than wine, but that doesn't mean you should go for jam, because you can create more kegs to process than what you will harvest. I would totally go with strawberry jam though.

For cask, I would keep casks and build barns to put kegs/jars. Yes, GPD for cask is pretty bad, but they can double the gold in two months, which others can't do. You can place kegs/jars in desert, quarry, tunnel and other places too.

[Whirl]

The main issue for me doesn't lie in space management, but time management. Besides, I'm playing on the Forest Map, which limits growing space. It's about 500 crops at a time instead of 10,000.

In my opinion, kegs use a lot more resources - not just the plain old Oak Resin, but you need a lot of Tappers to get it done in any decent time, each of which costs 2 Copper Bars. Or you could cheat. Whenever I see fields of Kegs, I always know somebody's cheating. Or their gametime outnumbers 70 years.

I bought about 300 Strawberries at the last Egg Festival, and planted only half (it was a smaller farm at the time), which actually allows me to keep them all through Spring on this year.

[Lenneth]

I don't see why you think someone is cheating if they have tons of kegs. I mean, I have roughly 800 - 1,000 kegs in summer year 2, and I am not playing with any mod, cheat or glitch. If you plant 100+ oak trees outside of the farm at spring-summer year 1, it's pretty managable. Tappers can be bit expensive, and I left 1/3 of fully grown oak trees without tapper till fall year 1, because I didn't have enough gold to buy woods. But, once initial investments are done, kegs are cheaper than jars.

IMO, you will probably benefit more by going with overall gold insteado GPD, since you can only harvest 500 crops, but if you are bounded by time, jars will indeed provide higher GDP. Tough to play in forest map I guess.

[titanopteryx]

We play the forest map differently. I do have a small area for crops, but most of my farm is dedicated to trees. I got lots of maple for sap, pine for shopping down, and I plan to set up an oak area for picking up fallen seeds. I do have a barn with kegs, but most of the time they're empty. The wood from those stumps over on the left increase in value with the foraging perk that increases the selling price of wood. I picked the perk that increases the value of sap, but when the update finally gets here I intend to change it to the perk that makes hard wood drop from normal trees when chopped down. I think I read that the update will include a way to change perks. I hope that I'm not wrong about that.

[Whirl]

The grassy areas are good for buildings, trees and machines. I've stuffed my farm with fruit trees for all seasons, on the grass of course. Trees grow fairly rampant.

All of the alternative maps take min-maxing and throw it out the window because you need to be more frugal in how you place your crops. You've got less crops, less growing space, so you need less machines for processing.