Pigs ruined my fun

[anthony77567]

Hello all. I been playing stardew valley for years, and have over 500 hours in this game. I always thought animals were not as profitable compared to ancient fruit wine. I also enjoyed making new farms and trying different maps.


The problem is i finally decided to try pigs and it ruined my experience. I feel like Pigs are so freaking broken OP and every time i start a new game, i always have to go pigs. Pigs blow the competition far and away, i don't even bother with the green house or ancient fruit wine anymore.

I feel like pigs limit design space and to get the best money, you have to go pigs. Pigs make the game unfun and killed my spirit of enjoyment.

I rank in about 60k a day on iridium truffles. Basically i feel like pigs are the only option, and if i start a new farm, all the other perks talents passives and money schemes are useless.

I know there is an early game, mid game, and late game. Once you reach late game and get pigs, the game is basically over. It's like, pigs destroy every profession perk and every other source of income in the game.

So yea, sorry i am whining and complaining, i just feel that pigs are really a "cheat" income. actually, writing blogging my thoughts down, i might banned pigs from my future games to make it more fun.

Any ways, yea i hope you guys take this information well. Thanks.

[TheSuit]

You don't need to min max in this game, you aren't "competing" against anything.
The idea is to play the game as you want to play it.

In other words you ruined your own fun, cause nothing is stopping you from having only 1 pig farm and growing only corn ( besides seasons )

[Callahan420]

Don't use pigs. Problem solved!

[Mealic]

Originally posted by red255:

Pigs are comparatively alot of effort. if you have money for pigs, which is the deluxe barn + several pigs + silo, which is like 200K.

you could repair the bus for I think around 50K and have 150K on starfruit seeds. with about 50 quality sprinklers and some scarecrows, for 400 seeds. which is 215K profit twice in summer.

just plant, harvest, plant. done.

we got kegs, thats 200 kegs, which pssh.thats about 2,200 million.

and well it scales up to the entire field.

so just 2 plantings a year 6000 starfruit. ...well 3 plantings a year, you want 1 planting of something like strawberries in spring to make the field easy to set up in summer. doing the calculations about 16.5 million a year needs around 400 kegs. a couple deluxe barns and the basement works.

doing pigs, they don't harvest on rainy days, they don't harvest in winter. for math's sake they get half the year they can harvest. so 60 harvest days a year.

they need 112 fodder a year.

they need 9 days to build the barn to deluxe status and if you scale your pigs up, they will clear the field of fodder I'm just going to go with buying the fodder to do easy maths.

so barn is 70,000, 12 pigs are 192K

12 pigs yield lets say 100 truffles a year, 125,000K
12 pigs eat 112x12 hay @50 for 67,200

so a barn full of pigs yields less than a barn full of kegs. making starfruit wine.

so to beat covering the field with starfruit and making 2 harvests of starfruit wine, we would need 245 barns, reasonably sure the field can only fit like 60 barns?

and thats a LOT more work.

but sure you want some chump change go pigs.

its just much easier to do small harvests of starfruit for starfruit wine.

If we are talking endgame, a pig can yield an average of 3 truffles a day. So using your numbers the math would be 3x12x60=2160 truffles a year from one barn. That is also not counting Gatherer with the double pick up proc. With these numbers you are looking at 2,700,000+ a year for each barn as profit.

[anthony77567]

right now on my main save i have 3 barns with 36 pigs. I am trying to level the happiness of all of them. They yield about 1 truffle to 1.5 (6 out of 12 pigs will give me a 2nd truffle) And i make 60k gold a day.

At first i wanted to just have fun and experiment, but with pigs i can afford the catalogs and new housing, horse, wood coal ores, and i can easily buy 1570 bushels of hay every season (i have 7 silos).

I always had trouble buying end game stuff like pam's house and the clock for weeds. I also had trouble buying the teleport home rod.

But with pigs, i successfully manage to buy all those things and even work towards the obalisk stones to teleport to beach and mountain.

With pigs, i bought all the end game money sinks and i manage to decorate my house and complete my dreams hehe.

Yea pigs are the big money makers. And my green house has cranberrys for winter. I am considering making ancient fruit wine again for winter. I am on year 3 spring right now.

GOld is just flowing easily.

[anthony77567]

My problem is, whenever i start a new file, it's very annoying to build up to pigs. I guess suffering is the key to success eh ?

Pigs are awesome. And on a new file, i really have no choice to work towards pigs. Also i do feel tired and lazy psychologically, so i am not starting new files as much anymore.

Pigs really spoil you rotten. Time to play a new file and remember what it's like to be poor

[Zaraki Snakenoman]

Originally posted by Callahan420:

Don't use pigs. Problem solved!

this man needs a beer

[Visi]

Originally posted by red255:

I was not seeing remotely that many truffles per day per pig, nor would you romance all your pigs when you had more than 10 barns.

or maybe you would, dunno. if thats your fetish, have a harem of pigs.

so assuming 3 truffles a day, 60 days a year, 200 truffles per pig. (with 20% chance of doubling)

truffle is 1250. 1250x200 = 250,000

yeah my numbers were for 1 pig. they felt low when I did them. so somewhere between 1.45 M and 2.9M per barn. depending on how much you romance your pigs and daily luck. per year.

so lets say 2.9M, the starfruit wine is still a good 6 barns worth of pigs. with just 2 harvests, and well lets assume 6 barns worth of kegs, (750 kegs) looks like it processes in 2 months.

and you don't have to go outside every day, picking up truffles every non rainy, non winter day.

just two plantings, two harvests, and cycling thru your kegs 8 times.

harem of pigs. lmao.

[Dekar_Serverbot]

Originally posted by The | Suit:

You don't need to min max in this game, you aren't "competing" against anything.
The idea is to play the game as you want to play it.

In other words you ruined your own fun, cause nothing is stopping you from having only 1 pig farm and growing only corn ( besides seasons )

THIS

[Nabeghlavi]

Did you join team pig for the steam grand prix?

[anthony77567]

Originally posted by Submarine_SF:

Did you join team pig for the steam grand prix?

Yes i did

[喝中国劲酒，打亲朋好友]

Then dont go pig,Save your fun of game.And how can you play for over 500 hours??? thats crazy

[SumYungGuy]

Originally posted by Pii Free:

...but you do realize that no one forces you to go pig? It's your decision to "cheat" and use the pigs - and yet you complain how broken they are?

Makes no sense to me... "Pigs completly ruin the fun for me, so let's buy as many pigs as possible to make sure that I don't have fun anymore!"

:special:

"Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game."
https://www.designer-notes.com/?p=369

[AutoHarmonic]

Originally posted by SumYungGuy:

"Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game."
https://www.designer-notes.com/?p=369

So much yes, and thank you for linking to this website. I didn't know it existed.

That being said, I've seen a lot of players also imposing challenges on themselves in easy or exploitable games. (Nuzlocke challenges are a great example. And there are endless in Minecraft.) So if the OP wants, they could concoct some self-imposed challenge that would either make pig farming not work or not viable to meet the conditions of the challenge.

[FoxoManiak]

i think the same but let's be real... what can creators of game do with it? maybe less money for it but then pigs would be useless so we need to play how they are :|

[Partypants]

Money becomes so irrelevant even by the end of year 2 that there's no reason to feel obligated to min-max. Don't base your enjoyment around what makes the most money. We grow crops and still make millions per game year. It's silly to think that's the only way to make more money than you need.