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Fureniku Aug 14, 2018 @ 2:26pm
Omega Worldline -.275349 discussions
So, I was playing through yesterday (still on first playthough of the VN, but a huge fan of the anime so I know the path that follows). I was being slightly absent minded, and accidentally didn't undo Faris' D-mail.

Instead, I ended up sending a different one, telling Faris' dad to give Okabe the IBN 5100 instead of selling it, which moved me to the Omega worldline -.275349.

On this worldline, the lab is never formed. You don't know Daru, Mayuri, Kurisu - or anyone else other than Faris. However, when you go to Tennouji's house (who you also don't know, but Nae is still just as terrified of you), you still find the divergence meter.

So this is my big question. If the lab was never formed, then Suzuha didn't need to be close to it in 2010 to meet Okabe and help him stop SERN. So, she would never have worked at the CRT shop, and never met Tennouji. If that's the case, why would Tennouji end up living with her when his house burnt down as in other world lines? Why would he have a shrine to her in his house, and why would he have the divergence meter? They would've probably still been neighbours after Suzuha reached 1975, but nothing more - just neighbours. She would feel no debt towards him to help him that much.

Smaller questions:
- Did Okabe actually get the IBN 5100 in this timeline, and if so what did he do with it? There's no mention of it at all. If so, why did he only recently meet Faris at the rainet tournament, and not earlier when he would've met her father?

- Why are Okabe and Mayuri not childhood friends? Did getting the IBN somehow stop them from meeting or something? Did Mayuri's grandma still die, and if so, who helped her through it? And, how did Okabe take on the Kyouma name (which he initially took on for Mayuri's sake) which he uses as his Rainet alias?

I assume the lab never formed because he never had to "become a mad scientist"; although he didn't initially form the lab for Mayuri's sake it's safe to assume she was an influencing factor in his inspiration to do that, so I can understand why he didn't know Daru well and Kurisu at all; but he went to school with Daru - they would've still known eachother as people, just not known much more than names. Daru acted like he'd never seen Okabe in his life, other than at Rainet tournaments.

Who has thoughts?
Last edited by Fureniku; Aug 14, 2018 @ 2:27pm
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Runa Silvertongue Aug 15, 2018 @ 12:39am 
I've cleared the game through Chapter 8, but I'm still pondering similar things about the worldline Okabe is sent to if he doesn't send the D-Mail to fix the original (?) worldline. I'm focusing on the Omega (as opposed to Alpha or Beta)--Omega is the last letter of the Greek alphabet, so I think it's reasonable to assume that it's the "end" of what Okabe previously had but doesn't in this worldline. I would think that because of the amount of the divergence, it completely changed everything to where Okabe is closest to Faris and barely knows Daru.

About the divergence meter itself--Suzuha doesn't need to infiltrate this worldline as she had to in the others because Mayuri was safe in this one. She and Okabe weren't childhood friends and the lab wasn't created, but I believe that Suzuha left the meter there as Okabe's anchor, and as a reminder of everything that he lost as a result of the wrong D-Mail.

I still think that Tennouji and Suzuha at least knew each other in this timeline. Tennouji's house may not have burnt down, but I think it's reasonable to assume that a similar tragedy happened to cause him to move in with Suzuha--maybe an earthquake or flood?

Regardless, I think it's reasonable to assume that Mayuri's grandmother doesn't die in this worldline, hence her not needing Okabe to get her through the grief.

Those are just my thoughts. I still haven't come close to getting all of the endings, etc., yet.
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Choco Aug 16, 2018 @ 3:10am 
There is no answer, relax
Last edited by Choco; Aug 16, 2018 @ 3:11am
Convergence. Remember that Suzuha actually went to 2010 to find her father, so it's possible for her to still go there on the Omega worldline to do the same.

Maybe Okabe met Faris's father after meeting her, then convergence made him obtain the IBN.

As for the last question, it's really open to interpretation like the last one. There's not really a right or wrong answer, it's just what you make of it. It's kinda of like that to a lot left open in Steins;Gate becasue of how the world works in it. Maybe Mayuri's grandmother is still alive, maybe Okabe used that name for another reason, or something like that.
Duchess of Kvetch Aug 31, 2018 @ 11:34am 
Might want to add a spoiler tag there, bub.
Big Moustache Sep 1, 2018 @ 10:33am 
Suzuha only stopped in 2010 to search her dad. She helped Mr. Braun because he needed help, nothing more.
EternalPolaris Nov 23, 2018 @ 6:37am 
I think the major question with the divergence meter is this: why did suzuha even need to go to the past and who sent her? Since the lab was never formed then realistically only daru could have sent her. But the reason must be completely different than in the alpha world line because they must have known that they were in deep when they made the divergence meter and looked at the reading, not to mention the fact that the phonewave was not built and neither was CERN active before the time machine was completed. Speaking of which, this must mean that at least suzuha and okabe cross paths in the future, because it was okabe who made the divergence meter. As for suzuha's motivation for helping FB, it could be completely ulterior. For example, i do not think that this happened in the VN, but in the anime I am fairly certain that it was suzuha who recruited Tennouji into CERN. I got this from taking what he said in the anime just before he shot himself in a different context . I might be wrong, but that was one interpretation that I have had.
Last edited by EternalPolaris; Nov 23, 2018 @ 6:41am
Duchess of Kvetch Nov 23, 2018 @ 5:13pm 
Perhaps the answers are in Stein's Gate Zero?
EternalPolaris Nov 23, 2018 @ 11:20pm 
Originally posted by Duchess of Kvetch:
Perhaps the answers are in Stein's Gate Zero?
No. Steins gate zero does not involve any of the worldlines where other character endings occured.
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