Does Valve deserve the 30% cut?

[Altrix]

Most developers say no. Trading Valve's greed to Epic's more justified pricing is very undestandable. Consumers will have to pay less and the games will sell more. This is the way China takes over the world by giving us better deals. Thus this competition is quite pro-consumer I feel.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh ☠ Jordan ☠:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Menge-kun:

Not everyone want's to download a bazillion launchers for a single game to play. Not everyone wants to download a launcher from a company that is basically owned by the Chinese either. Other people will boycott the game by the principle that what they pulled is anti-consumer and all around a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing to do...

Timber Wolf doesn't understand what principle means. You may need to explain that to him very slowly.

He has Google for that I'm tired as ♥♥♥♥ and I'm not going to be a teacher, he can ask Tim Sweeney or Google for it

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This game could just be ♥♥♥♥ and they just wanted the easy money from Fortnite, maybe it's a blessing is disguise....

[Bovino]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Timber Wolf:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Antero90:

Wait... you are using Tim Sweeney ?
Please use an unbiased source.

About splitting the community... hm... I dunno, supose I want to post something for my buddies on Steam like a... screenshot that I find relevant.

Feel free to provide your own numbers backed up with links. Till then, I have sufficiently showed that they don't need to be charging any where near 30%.

Will do Timmy

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Timber Wolf:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Antero90:

Wait... you are using Tim Sweeney ?
Please use an unbiased source.

About splitting the community... hm... I dunno, supose I want to post something for my buddies on Steam like a... screenshot that I find relevant.

Feel free to provide your own numbers backed up with links. Till then, I have sufficiently showed that they don't need to be charging any where near 30%.

Valve does more than just Steam though, they are helping out with Linux and they are apparently going to make their own VR without HTC. They do a lot more behind the scene then just paying for servers.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh ☠ Jordan ☠:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Menge-kun:

This game could just be ♥♥♥♥ and they just wanted the easy money from Fortnite, maybe it's a blessing is disguise....

It's not even about the game it's actually just about principal to me. It's that you were willing to pay someone to not put their game somewhere that really irks me. Also I don't support pre-ordering so those of us who waited to see if the game is actually good get shafted.

It's about both for me, I was about to pre-order it myself and now I can't or should I say wont!

[barbatul misterios]

Yes, they definitely deserve the 30% cut. It's the best distribution platform and has been for 14 years.

[Old Slime]

Id rather deal with the devil i know that the yellow devil i don't.

[Sage Pirotess]

Well if your smart so.e retailers have steam keys still. But i sure nit for long.

[Erebus]

Does Valve deserve the 30% cut? I dunno. I don't even care. Maybe they do, maybe they don't, I don't develop games, I don't sell them, I buy and play them. And as of right now, the prices on Epic store for me are EXACTLY the same as on Steam. Now, I am pretty happy that I didn't pre-order this game, as I would have been forced to download yet another launcher - in addition to Origin, Uplay and some others. Because this ♥♥♥♥ is ridic - I bought the game on Steam, don't force me to download yet another launcher.

[Hat8]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Menge-kun:

This game could just be ♥♥♥♥ and they just wanted the easy money from Fortnite, maybe it's a blessing is disguise....

I'd rather the game be good so that the publishers are to blame instead of the devs. Devs have a hard time already.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh 786543:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Menge-kun:

This game could just be ♥♥♥♥ and they just wanted the easy money from Fortnite, maybe it's a blessing is disguise....

I'd rather the game be good so that the publishers are to blame instead of the devs. Devs have a hard time already.

I'm hoping the game is good too, I was making a joke that can't be conveyed that well over text.

[GM Pax]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Timber Wolf:

Something he missed is their servers for user generated content, which is 2.7 Petabtes, or 2700 TB, so 15 more servers in 28 cites, would be another 23 Million in hardware costs.

Another thing missed in those prices:

The actual building; the elctricity bill; the water bill; the insurance.

Also, that estimate on number of servers provides ZERO redundancy. The storage systems for Steam's library are almost certainly a RAID 6 array, for the greatest redundancy, while maintaining the best up-time due to drive failure tolerance. That means four times as many drives, so, 32 per city (and another 32 for the UGC stuff). Realistically, Steam should have plenty of "spare legroom" for NEW uploads, so let's peg each of those at 40 servers. Per city.

That puts the hardware costs at FIVE TIMES his estimate.

[prh_99]

1 game with a $10 discount from moving to Epic, mean while every other game is full price....Wow. I fully expect most publishers to just add the extra cash to their bottomline.

[barbatul misterios]

Diposting pertama kali oleh phogan09:

1 game with a $10 discount from moving to Epic, mean while every other game is full price....Wow. I fully expect most publishers to just add the extra cash to their bottomline.

$10 US only so I don't give a damn.

[Sage Pirotess]

Diposting pertama kali oleh seriful galactic:

Diposting pertama kali oleh phogan09:

1 game with a $10 discount from moving to Epic, mean while every other game is full price....Wow. I fully expect most publishers to just add the extra cash to their bottomline.

$10 US only so I don't give a damn.

There are still steam keys for this game for sell out there.