natural elex

[Icedfate]

this is not a complaint.

but, I'm just wondering if they intended for you to be able to get this stuff so easily.

here's the thing. when I buy the stuff from most of the merchants that have it, it never restocks, but the merchants in the outlaw city restock it immediately.
this allows the player to just buy as much of it as they want, only limited by the amount of elexite money they accumulated.

on the one hand , I understand that the name of the game is Elex and it is established that certain people consume elex and abuse it to gain more strength.
I see that the only reasonable way to get strong enough to learn the higher level skills and equip the better weapons is to consume the elex potions, given that I have read posts saying that even when you literally do everything and kill everything , you end the game around level 34-40, which would give about 340-440 attribute points (depending on whether you took the skill for an extra point per level or not), which is not really enough...unless you specialize and minmax and still, you will be weak unless you go full combat and then you won't have any crafting or charisma and miss out on a lot of dialogue options.

you really need like, 1000 points round yourself out, so the rest needs to come from potions.
and there are over 100 skills to learn, so you have to consume the strong elex potions to get them all...doing this all but guarantees you will be the maximum coldness level, which makes sense, because you are pretty much abusing it like the albs.

which, I do not have a problem with. This almost does seem to be by design because they have a steam achievment that requires you to learn every skill you can learn to get it to pop.


my question is that was it intended for the player to just be able to open the outlaw goods mechant and buy the 18 natural elex he has for sale, then close the window and immediately reopen it and buy 18 more?
it seems exploity. like, they should have at least made the player wait 7 game days for it to restock(which I guess wouldn't really solve it because then people would just sleep in one of the beds for 7 days to make it restock), but then why even have it stock in a quantity at all, just make the merchant have unlimited?
but it seems only the merchants in the outlaw city restock it, all the others , it's gone once you bought it.
it seems like they wanted to use the natural elex as a limiting factor, to prevent the player from building up power too quickly, but the infinite restocking items contradicts this.
was this an oversight on their part or working as intended?

[ZZZZZ]

A: cause the game isnt polished

edit: maybe it was for the outlaw crafting cause you rly need the elex but they had no time/were to lazy/whatever to get a better source for providing natural elex for these

[manegarm]

I noticed that too.

My explanation for myself is: Kleriks and Berserks are not allowed to consume elex, therefore it's hard to come by.

The Outlaws don't have a rule like that. So Elex for everyone.
There is also your "personal" merchant who also sells unlimited Elex

Balancingwise is the money to buy the elex somewhat limiting, that you can't get too out of controll.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Developers would need to shed some light on this. Everything else is speculation.

It works as intended that merchants replenish their limited stocks. Natural Elex isn't that rare, because it is lying around in many places, the Albs harvest it in big quantity, people are fighting over it, and it is dangerous - but would it look better, if a merchant offered 100x Natural Elex, 1000x Natural Elex or 10000x Natural Elex? That you need to quit the shopping interface and talk to the merchant again seems to be a tradeoff for gameplay reasons.

Originally posted by Icedfate:

you end the game around level 34-40,

Your endgame level depends on how much you level up, how many respawns you kill, how many missions you complete, and and and. Various players have not stopped at level 40. Others have rushed to the end much earlier than level 30. With and without Elex potions usage.

Originally posted by Icedfate:

and there are over 100 skills to learn, so you have to consume the strong elex potions to get them all...doing this all but guarantees you will be the maximum coldness level, which makes sense, because you are pretty much abusing it like the albs.

You don't "have to" learn all skills, not the factionless skills and not the faction-specific skills either. 100 skill points would be 100 strong elex potions = +10 cold. Nothing compared with heavy consumption of normal potions in order to raise attributes.

Originally posted by Icedfate:

which, I do not have a problem with. This almost does seem to be by design because they have a steam achievment that requires you to learn every skill you can learn to get it to pop.

Keep in mind that those steam achievements are not specific to a single playthrough, and you cannot unlock all achievements in a single playthrough either.

No need to develop an overpowered Jax, who learns all Combat/Crafting/Survival/Personality skills. in a single playthrough plus all of a faction's skills.

[manegarm]

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

[...] but would it look better, if a merchant offered 100x Natural Elex, 1000x Natural Elex or 10000x Natural Elex? That you need to quit the shopping interface and talk to the merchant again seems to be a tradeoff for gameplay reasons.

The merchant is pobably selling "low" quantities of Elex because that is around the amount you usually buy. Imagine ticking down from 1000 elex, if you just want 20.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

That theory is plausible, but only provided that they found reason not to start at 0 items and letting buyers use the +1/+10/-1/-10 buttons as necessary.

Afterall, other items (particularly consumables and crafting materials) are affected, too. As convenient as it may seem to fill the virtual "shopping cart" with max number of items available in a shop, someone wanting to buy lots of ammo, for example, will need to exit/reenter the shop, too.

[Big Moustache]

You also need it to craft chems, i never use them but you can make a fortune as a drugdealer