Tips for the combat system

[Elthrandil]

Hey,

I am currently really struggling with the combat system. It is obviously really clunky and hard to learn - but I read quite often that it gets better when you get used of it.

So I wanted to ask if you guys have any tips or tricks for the combat?

[Bulanskovich]

I found a decent combo to be light-light-light-heavy then special. It's a good idea to get the stamina upgrade first though.

[Turbo Nozomix]

Watch these videos.

How to work ELEX' melee combat and combo timing:
https://youtu.be/rS2xD9F98Kw

Tips on how to survive and handle combat:
https://youtu.be/zQWP2IoP4zo

[Dregora]

Honestly, people seem to think the stamina and super basic combat system is the problem, but it's not. It's just very clunky and i'm afraid that's on purpose. You can't cancel out of your combos to dodge, you can't dodge after you've drank a potion for a little bit, etc. All these little things make it feel extremely clunky.

Tips I can give you:
Get a shield asap. It's heavy attack will knock a lot of smaller creatures/NPC's down. Your special attack too.
Just level through passive quests and try to join one of the factions as fast as possible. The moment I joined the Berserkers and got my magic, the game got a whole lot easier and more manageable.

Bring a companion.

[Elthrandil]

Thank you very much guys :) - How is the magic in the game? Atm I consider going to the berserkers or outlaws - pretty tough decision :D

[-VG- Napster]

Originally posted by Inférnum~:

Honestly, people seem to think the stamina and super basic combat system is the problem, but it's not. It's just very clunky and i'm afraid that's on purpose. You can't cancel out of your combos to dodge, you can't dodge after you've drank a potion for a little bit, etc. All these little things make it feel extremely clunky.

Tips I can give you:
Get a shield asap. It's heavy attack will knock a lot of smaller creatures/NPC's down. Your special attack too.
Just level through passive quests and try to join one of the factions as fast as possible. The moment I joined the Berserkers and got my magic, the game got a whole lot easier and more manageable.

Bring a companion.

Wth are you talking about.
You can abort using a heal poition with a roll
You can cancel out of your combos!
( unless you press left klick like in a shooter game that´s not how the combat system works)
There is also a video somewhere that shows you how the combo system work.
There is nothing "clunky" about the combat system its fine as it is.

Disable auto target lock in options and do it manual way better!

[Carlz0r]

Originally posted by Elthrandil:

Thank you very much guys :) - How is the magic in the game? Atm I consider going to the berserkers or outlaws - pretty tough decision :D

Berserker magic, at least at the start (I think you can learn other stuff later) is in the form of an equippable 'item' called your magic fist. There are 3 that you can chose from (fire, ice, and poison) when you become a berserker, and each one has 3 spells that you can toggle between. Then it's just like using any other weapon. There's a button that fires the spell, then if you want to switch to Melee combat, you just select one of your hotkeyed weapons.

The Cleric faction have some other magic stuff entirely, and some overlap with the berserkers I believe... I haven't gotten to try any of that yet, because I'm not a cleric.

[FilthyEnders]

Originally posted by -VG- Napster:

Originally posted by Inférnum~:

Honestly, people seem to think the stamina and super basic combat system is the problem, but it's not. It's just very clunky and i'm afraid that's on purpose. You can't cancel out of your combos to dodge, you can't dodge after you've drank a potion for a little bit, etc. All these little things make it feel extremely clunky.

Tips I can give you:
Get a shield asap. It's heavy attack will knock a lot of smaller creatures/NPC's down. Your special attack too.
Just level through passive quests and try to join one of the factions as fast as possible. The moment I joined the Berserkers and got my magic, the game got a whole lot easier and more manageable.

Bring a companion.

Wth are you talking about.
You can abort using a heal poition with a roll
You can cancel out of your combos!
( unless you press left klick like in a shooter game that´s not how the combat system works)
There is also a video somewhere that shows you how the combo system work.
There is nothing "clunky" about the combat system its fine as it is.

Disable auto target lock in options and do it manual way better!

This pretty much. If you are thorogh, then you have likely found the Perception enhancing glasses. Free style mobs and retreat as needed, lock on for one-on-one combat.

[Dorok]

The dodging is totally screwed up that's the problem. And the little extra complexity only succeed drag players to just apply repetitive tricks. It's a serious crap in comparison with Gothic 1&2, once more.

Too bad the game doesn't seem bad at all and I don't understand all the negative comments out of those about combats, plus I should be blind because I didn't noticed the bugs.

That said, if it's crap in comparison of G1&2, it's not worse than many from Witcher series to all Bethesda crap.

[Dorok]

Watched both videos and both are total crap on dodging and managing timing with enemies. And they learn the combats, That's saying all the crap are those combats.

EDIT: But let be clear it will never been fixed as it never been in G3. this is because it's not really that G1&2 had a good combat system, it's the enemies design that made the combats good. And dev will never been able to redesign all.

[Kampfkekskrieger EXP Folk Master]

The combat is GREAT! You really NEED to learn the utilities you get, not just clicking a button and the game does the rest for you.
You need to aim with ranged weapons, dodge, and run sometimes, so its versatile, in contrast to a clicking until one of you is lieing on the ground, without that your head even notices that you play :-)
Its a bit versatile, refuses to accept brute force, but with skilled brute force, its just like a human would play! I find it great, I dont notice the edges that happen sometimes after some playtime anymore. Its to a large part dependend of your skill, its not neccessary that it annoys you, it depends on you, what you let the game make with you.
In Risen1 I also had to learn for some hours the combat system, its just different to other popular role play games, but without the individualism there would be no reason to play Elex, but due to its own way, its adding to your game experience as a player.

Oh and you are faster in learning it on your own feet than trying to imitate a TV-Player, I did not find a single TV-computer player who plays good, they only play to finish their project, no value in it, you play 10 hours and play better then them. Thats how it is. The good mood didn't stop.

[JB-emmanuel-Zorg]

Originally posted by Andrew:

I found a decent combo to be light-light-light-heavy then special. It's a good idea to get the stamina upgrade first though.

I tested this (i'm very low level), and it's very good!

[Dorok]

Originally posted by Kampfkekskrieger:

The combat is GREAT! You really NEED to learn the utilities you get, not just clicking a button and the game does the rest for you.
You need to aim with ranged weapons, dodge, and run sometimes, so its versatile, in contrast to a clicking until one of you is lieing on the ground, without that your head even notices that you play :-)
Its a bit versatile, refuses to accept brute force, but with skilled brute force, its just like a human would play! I find it great, I dont notice the edges that happen sometimes after some playtime anymore. Its to a large part dependend of your skill, its not neccessary that it annoys you, it depends on you, what you let the game make with you.
In Risen1 I also had to learn for some hours the combat system, its just different to other popular role play games, but without the individualism there would be no reason to play Elex, but due to its own way, its adding to your game experience as a player.

Oh and you are faster in learning it on your own feet than trying to imitate a TV-Player, I did not find a single TV-computer player who plays good, they only play to finish their project, no value in it, you play 10 hours and play better then them. Thats how it is. The good mood didn't stop.

Once more no word on dodging, most Gothic 1&2 combats are done without get hurt once, I don't remind you could use any potion anyway, or I never did.

So if you want help and convince the combat system is good (don't know yet Im' learning) you need elaborate a lot more on dodging (and you can skip the shooting it's obviously crap but no surprise shooting gameplay can't be good with most enemies close range). For now your post just add a proof that combats are far to be as good than those of G1&2.