Armour advice for beginners.

[Tiny Trees]

Basically equip some. ... I know that sounds stupid, so I will explain.

Have played about eleven hours. Beaten a few beasts, looted plants, and done a few basic missions etc.

However I never had any more armour than I think the trousers you come across early. I was finding Elex very hard to get going. It was easy to one hit die. I was afraid to take on missions outside of Goliat, even though I eventually did the Katty one.

All beast were a serious challenge. Other human enemies were one hit and dead or only a fraction of health left.

I had worked up to about 3000 currency today when I figured, do what the tips videos say. Meaning buy armour. I had been thinking though, don't spend since games generally drop what you need. Save currency for really important stuff.

Anyway I conceded and about armour; I went to put it on, and found two in my inventory. Must have collected one somewhere. I reloaded save so the armour purchase didn't exist any more. Put the armour on that I had found. Then ....

... Character was then easily tough enough to take on more fights.


Damn, I did all that struggling for nothing really.

[eXeZ|Gamer433]

This game isn't easy, especially on high difficulty settings. For me, i really like that.

The entire game, you just find a few (3-4) armors with low stats. The only one option to get better armors, is to join a faction (berserker, clerics or outlaws).

Money (Elex) is VERY important in this game. It's not only because you can purchase everything your heart desire, it's way more because of Elex Potions. Liqour (Booze, not wine, not beer) and Pure Elex are the both ingredients for making an Elex Potion (+2 stat points) or strong Elex Potion (+1 Skill Point).
Dont drink the little Elex Potions. Combine 2 littles to a normal one, its much better.

Drinking Elex Potions rises your cold. Just answer through dialogs with more emotions and you can drink as much Elex Potions you can afford, but your cold stay low.
If you play on hard (or Ultra), you will need this potions. A lot of them!

Of course, you need the recipes and the Potion Skill for that.

[Tiny Trees]

Yeah I think I did drink one or two Elex. Will take your advice on that, thank you.

[Tempus animae]

Just dodge and you don't need armor. I finished the game Topless XD (Even the best armor does not do that much in endgame anyway...).

The only important thing... Your weapon.
Weapon damage - Target armor = Target damage

And the only armour you should buy, is the second or last fraction armour. The first is not worth it(and free anyway). You can find everything else in the world.

[Stephanos]

you can also try to find the albs armour (your previous aromr before the jet fall dawn at the begenning of the game) :)

[Tiny Trees]

Thank you for your posts.

I was still having a tough time overall, and only the easier enemies were easy. Like even Biters, which net 10XP, were still damn tricky. If they hit me it was a lot of damage.

At about eighteen hours, I was ready to throw the towel in. Like all I was doing was looting, talking, and running backwards and forwards with messages - type thing. Any real combat and it was dead, dead, and dead. (I got so bored at one point, I was thinking the word 'plant', like EVE said it on Wall-E. Every single time I picked a plant. It got stuck in my head and got annoying though.)

Then at nineteen hours I got a companion. Since then lots has happened. Some fights like the four raptors and lead raptor were relatively easy, with a companion.

I just wandered across Arx by accident and got the option for him to join me. Honestly think I would have given up without him. Whereas now I am addicted to ELEX. (The game of course, not the stuff.)

Arx has great range damage. Once he opens up with that, I can just stand next to him and let him do it. His range weapon staggers enemies, and he gets another shot before they can attack. They are constantly knocked back.

[Dedmoin]

Interesting...

I always try to get best armor and best weapon. I am no one-hit, maybe it takes 3-5 hits to kill me. The biggest problem I face, I don't do much damage.
The companion was very helpful in the beginning because he (now I have several to chose, also including a female one but it it more or the less true for all) did much more damage than I did. Acutally I didn't do damage at all in the beginning. He was also very useful to tank, especially because he cannot die. However, at the point in game where I am, the companion is completely useless. She (I cannot remember the name but she does magic) does some damage but is a glass cannon. When fighting several enemies, she is down in a few seconds, thus useless.
I don't think it is possible to improve companions, they stay at the level you met them. So when you improve they become more and more useles.

I need one or two hits for the mob in the beginners area. A little into the game a came across two hunters, one of them asked me to return his bow, which is protected by two enemies. I don't know how many times I tried, but I never managed to kill them. I just don't do any significant damage.
All my other quests already lead me to other factions area, but I still cannot kill those to guys south of berserker settlement.

The other quest locations:
If I go to the exiles area, I got killed in seconds by a couple of bandits.
If I go to clerics I get killed in seconds to find some stuff to enter.
If I find the items for companion quests, I get killed in seconds by albs
If I go to the motel close to the quest location to find my things, I get killed in seconds.
I had to find a guy at a farm to either convince him to return to his duty or do his own things. When searching the area some monsters spawned and I ran to the NPCs nearby. The monsters killed each and everyone in seconds.
I have best weapon and armor I can get, while not joined a faction yet, since I am not able to.

[eXeZ|Gamer433]

Originally posted by Dedmoin:

I have best weapon and armor I can get, while not joined a faction yet, since I am not able to.

Surely not! Armor yes, the best ones comes from the factions, but ALL weapons can be found and are NOT bound to any faction.
There are some really nice ranged weapons with nice damage (over 100). With 100 Dexterity and ranged skill on level 3 (+ 30% ranged damage), you kill everything and everyone easily (on hard difficulty!).

To get them is not the main problem. Even you cant kill the monster who are protecting this weapons, you just can dodge them and take the stuff and run away.
The biggest problem is to get the stat points (like dextirity and strengh) to equip those weapons.

At this point: The best hint is, to do quests, quests and quests. As i described earlier this thread, money is so damn important, because you can easily make Elex Potions for getting stat points and skill points.
So, i recommend to choose VERY EARLY this skills:

- More EXP from quests
- More EXP from monsters
- More EXP from books (and everything else you can read)
- Lockpicking (on level 2 is enough, because for level 3 chests, you just equip a necklace +1)
- Hacking (level 2 is nearly enough for the entire game, but later, skill it to 3)
- Trader-Skill for better prices (because, getting more money for your stuff and buying cheaper Booze and cheaper Pure Elex = more Elex Potions = Getting more power)
- Animal Trophies (on level 3 of course). A really nice thing to make money
- Attribut-Skill to get +1 additional attribut on level up
- Miner (to get double Ore and Gold)
- Poison and radioactive ressistance for looting those areas (+ ressist ring, + gas mask + calaans shield + stims)

And if you want to get as much as possible:
- Save before you talk to a new NPC and when you get the dialog option where you need a higher skill level (like fight or personality), load your save game and go back to this NPC and talk to him again when you met this requirements. Here you ca use very well necklaces with +2 (fight, personality, and so on).
EXP-Bonus and free items are the rewards.

AFTER choosing the skills above, you can choose fighting skills etc.
Yes, its a harder start, but you get MUCH stronger and richer (money = pushing your hero massively).

Tl;dr
Level up through questing, not through fighting. Its way faster, easier and less frustrating. For questing you dont need (at least in most cases) fighting skills, so you should choose all skills which grants you early bonuses.
Getting quest where you have to fight/kill? Leave them for later.

Btw: There are different kinds of sunglasses. The very best one is to see items through walls. BEST way to loot as much as possible.
The second usefull sunglass is where you can see ebemies (monsters, bandits, albs ...) on the mini map (radar). But here you can easily getting this feature through skilling it, while you wearing the item sunglass, then you can joy both bonusses.
The third nice sunglass is the one for life forms, because this one also shows collectible plants and herbs.

Btw2: NEVER sell or eat King's Sorrel and Gold Whisper plants! Because, they are VERY rare and you need them for REALLY good permanent potions (boosting max health, stamina, mana etc.).
(There are total 6 King's Sorrel and 18 Gold Whisper in game.)

[Tiny Trees]

Thanks for the tips.

I never sell plants of any kind because I don't need to and never know what I might need. Thank you for the heads up about permanent stat boosts.

The combat is too hard, but then I am playing on hard. However we get sent all over the map, and have to avoid fights. ... I have issue with that though, because I bought it thinking it a combat game. I am way under-powered at level ten I think. I have not seen new armour or a new weapon that I can use for hours and hours.

Tonight I did maybe three hours, and there were not many fights. More very long fights with OP enemies. I feel like I need some upgrade to keep it moving. However I am not worn down, so will play on happy for a good time. By then I guess I will find something I can use. It really bites though when I find weapons, and they are ages away from being usable.

[Tempus animae]

If you can't get/use a better weapon, just use long chain attacks(Melee). A long combo gets much MUCH stronger. And if you use a finisher, even one of the first weapons can kill some of the stronger enemys.

[Tiny Trees]

Thank you again for the advice.

When I started up again I found I was level twelve, not ten. Quite a bit happened after that. When I got to level thirteen, it allowed me to the last point, to upgrade a weapon. Since then I level to fifteen, and am doing good damage on the weakest enemies. Honestly still think I should drop from hard though, because overall it's brutal. It feels like a Dark Souls game.

(Playing on 'hard', and struggling though. Face-palm myself. Just hoping it might slot into place a bit easier at some point.)

There was a lot of Elex drinks over that stage of play though. So I made maybe four more skill points, on top of three level up.

Originally posted by Zeitseele:

If you can't get/use a better weapon, just use long chain attacks(Melee). A long combo gets much MUCH stronger. And if you use a finisher, even one of the first weapons can kill some of the stronger enemys.

One spec I have put points into is the damage and stats that increase with each level. I bought them all. Have definitely started to notice damage increases considerably with combos. It's even given me more melee damage than Arx companion, over the last two levels. (That's with companion damage increased too.)

Could really use some armour though. I think one of my issues is that I didn't get into a faction yet. I am not necessarily choosing Beserkers, but Ragnor is really hard work. Like I managed to upset his wife, and no idea how what I chose in that conversation did it. Apparently someone's death is on my hands. Whereas three missions I don't know which way to complete. I have the sword which you can return to Ragnor. Plus the Bertram quest needs finishing; I went to attack him but got called out for murder, so F9. Then another one that I can't recall name of.

[regina_ragna]

Originally posted by Stephanos:

you can also try to find the albs armour (your previous aromr before the jet fall dawn at the begenning of the game) :)

Where did you find that before reaching the ice palace?

[Tiny Trees]

Originally posted by regina_ragna:

Originally posted by Stephanos:

you can also try to find the albs armour (your previous aromr before the jet fall dawn at the begenning of the game) :)

Where did you find that before reaching the ice palace?

I went back the crashed ship, but didn't find any armour. Might not be the same place though.

[Tiny Trees]

In the above two posts, I hope I didn't give the impression that I was not liking Elex. Am pretty well truly addicted.

Have played fifty-two hours, and I get the impression I am playing the long game. Not just going through main quests. Doing all quests and tone of exploring and looting.

[eXeZ|Gamer433]

Originally posted by Tiny Trees:

Have played fifty-two hours, and I get the impression I am playing the long game. Not just going through main quests. Doing all quests and tone of exploring and looting.

I have played 200+ hours and i am nearly at the end of the story now.
For me it was important, to do as much quests as possible until i MUST choose a faction. You cant end the game without one, too bad.

[Tempus animae]

Originally posted by eXeZ|Gamer433:

Originally posted by Tiny Trees:

Have played fifty-two hours, and I get the impression I am playing the long game. Not just going through main quests. Doing all quests and tone of exploring and looting.

I have played 200+ hours and i am nearly at the end of the story now.
For me it was important, to do as much quests as possible until i MUST choose a faction. You cant end the game without one, too bad.

200 h? O.o I finished everything possible(without joining a faction) in less than 40h... What did you do? No fast travel? XD