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What does cold level too high mean?
So currently my cold level is 'neutral'. If a dialogue option says 'cold level too high' at the end does that mean I have to be more cold so that the level sinks under neutral or do I have to be more emotional and raise it to above neutral?
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Sculelos Dec 8, 2017 @ 9:17am 
cold means emotions so the higher it is the more logical and less emotional you become. So if you are emotional you will see cold decreased notifications and if you are logical you will see cold increased notifications. Note that 10 elex potions = 1 cold point increase.
v0 Dec 8, 2017 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by ModerateManiac:
So currently my cold level is 'neutral'. If a dialogue option says 'cold level too high' at the end does that mean I have to be more cold so that the level sinks under neutral or do I have to be more emotional and raise it to above neutral?

too high/too low in most practical terms means you simply cant choose that dialog option. now why you cant do it comes from what cold's supposed to mean. high cold = logical machine like calculating rationality, low cold = impulsive more irrational humane behavior. strictly speaking category isnt super well delineated but still it's more or less workable. in good rpg you'd have 5-10 different such aspects defining your character.
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bloody hell Dec 8, 2017 @ 9:51am 
Okay so at the moment I am trying to talk to the separatist alb leader but he wants to know which side I will take in the fight for the ice pallace. It says my cold level is too high to agree with the separatists and kill the Hybrid but I have enough emotion to say that the Hybrid is superior to the free people but that's not my actual opinion. I wanna agree with the allb separatist but it won't let me.
Dreaming Prince Dec 8, 2017 @ 9:53am 
you need to decrease your cold level when it says "cold level too high" i.e become more emotional
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bloody hell Dec 8, 2017 @ 9:54am 
Originally posted by v0:
Originally posted by ModerateManiac:
So currently my cold level is 'neutral'. If a dialogue option says 'cold level too high' at the end does that mean I have to be more cold so that the level sinks under neutral or do I have to be more emotional and raise it to above neutral?

too high/too low in most practical terms means you simply cant choose that dialog option. now why you cant do it comes from what cold's supposed to mean. high cold = logical machine like rationality, low cold = impulsive more irrational behavior. categories arent super well delineated but more or less ok.
Yes but it says my cold is too high to agree with the separatist and kill the hybrid but isn'T killing it a cold action? Because I have enough emotion to say it should be left alive but like saying it should live is what an alb would do and albs are cold so why don't I need a certain cold level for that dialogue option.
v0 Dec 8, 2017 @ 9:54am 
if your cold's high you can only agree with hybrid as most logical thing for alb's to join him. if you want to rebel against him you need at least some emotions to flip things to neutral or beyond (low cold).
Last edited by v0; Dec 8, 2017 @ 9:56am
bloody hell Dec 8, 2017 @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by Furry:
you need to decrease your cold leven when it says "cold level too high" i.e become more emotional
But like aren't the alb separatist emotionless? Why would agreeing to their term be emotional i.e less cold
Sculelos Dec 8, 2017 @ 9:56am 
Originally posted by ModerateManiac:
Originally posted by v0:

too high/too low in most practical terms means you simply cant choose that dialog option. now why you cant do it comes from what cold's supposed to mean. high cold = logical machine like rationality, low cold = impulsive more irrational behavior. categories arent super well delineated but more or less ok.
Yes but it says my cold is too high to agree with the separatist and kill the hybrid but isn'T killing it a cold action? Because I have enough emotion to say it should be left alive but like saying it should live is what an alb would do and albs are cold so why don't I need a certain cold level for that dialogue option.

Basically you are confusing what cold is. Cold being high reduces your emotions and Jax thinks the hybrid is smarter than himself but when you get more emotional being decreasing your cold level you can realize all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ things the hybrid has done to increase his own power.
bloody hell Dec 8, 2017 @ 9:56am 
Originally posted by v0:
if your cold's high you can only agree with hybrid as most logical thing for alb's to join him.
So how do I lower my cold level?
bloody hell Dec 8, 2017 @ 9:57am 
Originally posted by Sculelos:
Originally posted by ModerateManiac:
Yes but it says my cold is too high to agree with the separatist and kill the hybrid but isn'T killing it a cold action? Because I have enough emotion to say it should be left alive but like saying it should live is what an alb would do and albs are cold so why don't I need a certain cold level for that dialogue option.

Basically you are confusing what cold is. Cold being high reduces your emotions and Jax thinks the hybrid is smarter than himself but when you get more emotional being decreasing your cold level you can realize all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ things the hybrid has done to increase his own power.
It says my cold level is neutral so I am assuming that's too high then
v0 Dec 8, 2017 @ 9:57am 
Originally posted by ModerateManiac:
Originally posted by Furry:
you need to decrease your cold leven when it says "cold level too high" i.e become more emotional
But like aren't the alb separatist emotionless? Why would agreeing to their term be emotional i.e less cold

that's where category doesnt fit super well. in principle hybrid gives logical argument why all albs should do what he says but most albs arent aware of those arguments. even for those in know hybrid prefers to take away distracting thoughts for 'efficiency reasons'. and anyway no free thinker'd really buy hybrid's arguments in first place.
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Sculelos Dec 8, 2017 @ 9:59am 
The alb seperatist believe that the hybrid is taking all the Elex for himself and they think it would be better if they consumed more Elex basically meaning If he is taking all the Elex how can they progress themselves?
v0 Dec 8, 2017 @ 10:01am 
Originally posted by Sculelos:
The alb seperatist believe that the hybrid is taking all the Elex for himself and they think it would be better if they consumed more Elex basically meaning If he is taking all the Elex how can they progress themselves?

i think hybrid's argument's "themselves" meaningless concept. what matter's whether any albs survive what comes. it's kinda amusing how nice parallel this has with elex's old world story.
Last edited by v0; Dec 8, 2017 @ 10:03am
bloody hell Dec 8, 2017 @ 10:05am 
I am just confused how I will now be able to become less cold. I usually go for 'warm' answers so I don't know why my character suddenly wants to save the Hybrid. Now I hardly have any quests left and the main story currently only has this mission left. I don't want to save the Hybrid though so how will I even be able to choose to kill it if it always says that my cold levels are high...
v0 Dec 8, 2017 @ 10:10am 
only way to lower cold's to be emotional in dialogs with people. in some cases it means showing anger or impulsiveness (= not calculating) in most cases it's being considerate emphatic (= caring). eg take caja with you when you talk to people and make decisions such that she approves.
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