Are Gothic, Risen and Elex connected?

[Merzhin]

First of all: this is all to be taken with a grain of salt, and pretty much certainly not true. But it would be cool if it were.

In the beginnings there was gothic. We start our story on the island of khorinis. Where King Rhobar II decided to found a mining colony to mine a valuable ore with magical properties.
It is a time of war with the orcs, there is barely any time to make serious technological advances, and the properties of the ore stay largely unknown.
Then comes along the nameless hero. As he gets tossed in the penal colony he starts to unravel the mysteries of the magical barrier (ps. the Sleeper was a titan!) and what exactly went wrong there. Long story short, our hero, that is guided by adanos, the one god to foster balance in the world goes on a rampage spree destroying all said gods to maintain a balance.
NOTE: Arcania, aka gothic 4 is NOT CANON! The official story ended with G3:FG

This in turn causes some really cataclysmic events that cause some ancient titans to awaken on some far away southern islands. And this in turn brings us to the risen saga.
Again we have the same elements in play as in the gothic saga. Heck, there are even factions using crystal magic! In my opinion they just figured out a little bit better how the magic ore works.
During the course of the Risen saga the nameless hero meets a really witty former nameless hero. And while it is never really implied. I am pretty certain this is actually the gothic nameless hero, and not an earlier risen character. Mostly due to the way he was written. And the knowledge he had of worlds that coexist next to ours, and the workings of the soul.
This must have been the one character with the most substance in the entire Risen 3 game. At the end of the saga the big overlaying problem of the world is not yet solved. And causes me to believe it went wrong. Badly! The entire world shatters and breaks to pieces, because Mr steelbeard was too busy chasing his own soul instead of saving the world

This last event causes a fragment of the Gothic/Risen world to launch off into space. And here we now have a large rock formation containing magical ore, now flying off into space on a course set for a technologically advanced species. Magallan!

These are my 2 cents, I hope you liked it! Since i've pulled it all out of my behind.

[Sanctuary]

>During the course of the Risen saga the nameless hero meets a really witty former nameless hero.

This is the hero from risen 1 and 2, we can't meet the hero from gothic series as he leaves the mortal plane together with Xardas.

Gothic and Risen story is continuous and happens in the same world (Morgrad), ELEX story happens in the world of Magalan. Yet we have no evidence of any connection with previous games.

[Merzhin]

Ah, those are the names of the actual worlds! Thanks, I did not know those!

The general gist i'm trying to et over is that Morgrad has basically exploded, and the comet that strikes Magalan is actually a chunk of Morgrad.

Well, the fact that he left the mortal plane is how he got the knowledge of all those worlds next to the ones they live in, and how he got that knowledge of the soul. What is there to say he is not able to materialze some essence of himself in that world? He did vanish in thin air after our conversation ;-) Kind of bummed me out, as I wanted to try him out in combat.

Him being the Risen1 and 2 hero is the most logical thing and you are probably right, but the rest of the gist still sticks. No matter what hero that was.
That little conversational moment with that former hero does deserve all the mention it can get online tho.

[Rogue The Avali]

I'm pretty sure it IS the hero from 1 and 2. If you bring Patty with you, they'll exchange some words, making it pretty obvious. Other than that, theory on itself is pretty cool.

[Dr. Permixtus]

Originally posted by The shell of a man:

>During the course of the Risen saga the nameless hero meets a really witty former nameless hero.

This is the hero from risen 1 and 2, we can't meet the hero from gothic series as he leaves the mortal plane together with Xardas.

Gothic and Risen story is continuous and happens in the same world (Morgrad), ELEX story happens in the world of Magalan. Yet we have no evidence of any connection with previous games.

Where did you see that Gothic and Risen happens in the same world? PB stated they're definitely two seperate worlds only connected by Easter Eggs. That Risen also plays on Morgrad is as far as I'm concerned only a Fantheory.

Also the Conversation with the nameless hero in Risen 3 is, like Stranger already said, the hero from the first two risen games. It's a nice little throw back though!

[Cutlass Jack]

Originally posted by Stranger:

I'm pretty sure it IS the hero from 1 and 2. If you bring Patty with you, they'll exchange some words, making it pretty obvious. Other than that, theory on itself is pretty cool.

This is correct. Risen 1 & 2 feature the same hero. Risen 3 you play Patty's Brother with the 1/2 hero making a cameo. Risen 3's hero is only semi-nameless since he has a last name.

[Big Billy]

http://www.klanl2.pun.pl/_fora/klanl2/gallery/6_1178293900.jpg

You may be on to something.....

[Daigoji Gai]

Digging this connection.

[AsianGirlLover]

Would be awesome if Elex was connected to the other games, but I can confirm that Risen is directly related to the end events of Gothic 3.

At least we have lots of funny Gothic references in Elex. (Jax getting punched in the face in the beginning, Jax kicking the Hybird like The Nameless Hero killed the Undead Dragon in the end of G2, etc.)

[Drakzen]

Was there not some kind of split and one group made Risen with it being how they wanted the story to continue and Gothic 4 being the official continuation?

[Mr.MM]

sorry for necroing but look at this map
https://gothic.fandom.com/de/wiki/Morgrad

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by Drakzen:

Was there not some kind of split and one group made Risen with it being how they wanted the story to continue and Gothic 4 being the official continuation?

Gothic 4 aka ArcaniA was not developed by Piranha Bytes and not by ex-developers from Piranha Bytes either. Same thing as with Gothic 3: Forsaken Gods. JoWooD only tried to squeeze some cash out of the Gothic IP.

[Kampfkekskrieger EXP Folk Master]

its even MORE than connected! (you could find the paralels for the follows if you would "want it to"):
the "symbolic connections" is our "language": interpretation means: To derive betwen two latin letters a next information like integral calculations in-maths.
with additional information you do get by "feeling", you will soon solve that "integral upride" and get faster better aproximations; and "interpretation land" is almost the translation of "Deut-sch-land" so thats germany; but this word derives from germ - the seed - you could e.g. derive from bible.
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gothic1 is the jailed germans in besetted germany (oh you could see it besetted for as long as europe exists becaus its "mid". Mid always "must be besetted" they say, but they dont know that midgard is still free; the magic ore is the "believe source" for the opressors, so nobody has time to find truth;

(I overgo gothic 2, because I already AM a dragon; but for those in need for "be yourself" get the dragon life once again for that)

gothic 3: the world is more opened: you are now capable to "climb the companies" of Germany.gmbh ->upik registered structures of BRD structures,

upon 75% popularity, you will find yourself on the "manager" seat there, but is it worth to climb this or that town? -> problem circumstances -> quests: Hero does all, NPCs do nothing still in the ring;

BUT: you can use the seat you get also, to undermine the "town" for rebels: truth knowledge; private detective things; survival skills, alternative healing lores (exist all over the internet; proclaimed as toxic in the opinion of the dominant "school medicine" or "dominant lores" we have besetted upon ourself:

the gothic 3 player knows nothing from theese real sphere, but the game connects the material thing with the "outer" shell of a german. (e.g. the metaphysic connection to their ancestors)

risen means: the titans are REAL. its MORE indepth than gothic, because it happens "INSIDE" the way of gothic 3, more accurately played the player ITSELF developing the inner skills fore more refine-ness.

Elex is the point where the god is not the church, but yourself. EL-God -Ex- no more god. because this "divinity" has been transfered to YOU. (the extractors almost look and behave like churches dont they?=)

its a very very nice way to get to transcendental powers, experiences, many germans known in their community, have that gate to more knowledge than "pure physic" capabilites.

But now, the "one man who developes to a titan" is so much dangerous, so the Europe environment is "soaking the game into its market more" but this does not stop the player to be more "titan" still.

And at the end of the levels, they come to ME: The master of mother earth. (or other masters if they exist)

When the pupil is ready for his lecure, his (next) master will come, becaus unavoidable, the pupil will go on his life way on the same "level/Speed" if he does not "rise" by himself.
and then, a devine "master" is called for all those waiting for bigger challenge.

the point is: This kind of story remains TRUE, if you want so, and the "what if we act as if it was this" will call this truth up to exist.
and this kind of story the OP mentioned, is also true for egosoft and the anno-developers, I think more.