Why is windowed mode NOT borderless?

[BDK]

It's like we're back in 2007 all over again with this release

[Coldhands]

My guess is that's because this is an old game on an old engine and it can't do the whole borderless window thing. I'm no expert though, but it seems like borderless windowed mode is something that didn't become a feature until several years after BioShock came out.

[Flappy Pannus]

It should have it definitely, but you can force it with the Borderless Gaming utility.

https://github.com/Codeusa/Borderless-Gaming/releases

[Dusk of Oolacile]

A core element of windows is a title bar you can use to drag them around. It was actually invented much earlier than 2007 and (due to demand) has been re-implemented for UWP "apps" as well. It won't go anywhere in the near future. (They also want you to buy a g/free-sync monitor and providing proper vsync and buffering won't get you to.)

[Flappy Pannus]

Uh...he's not asking for borderless window mode for notepad bud. Borderless windowed mode for games is quite common in modern releases, in fact a *criticism* of UWP games early on is that they only ran in borderless window mode as opposed to exclusive fullscreen.

Borderless window mode for games gives you the advantage of no mode changes when you alt-tab back and forth, it's instant as it's just another window, only that it's running without the titlebars so it's just as immersive as exclusive fullscreen. It also forces triple buffering which can smooth out frame hitches for games that don't support it, as it has to go through Windows desktop window manager which has this on by default. The disadvantage is that it can sometimes hurt performance a tad, which obviously isn't an issue in a game like Bioshock.

[overdev]

Originally posted by Coldhands:

My guess is that's because this is an old game on an old engine and it can't do the whole borderless window thing. I'm no expert though, but it seems like borderless windowed mode is something that didn't become a feature until several years after BioShock came out.

the remaster runs on the unreal engine 4 ...

[dinosauriac]

Originally posted by overdev:

the remaster runs on the unreal engine 4 ...

like hell it does, at best they might've ported it to the version of UE3 used for Infinite, but considering the distinct lack of light shafts I doubt it.

[Flappy Pannus]

Originally posted by overdev:

Originally posted by Coldhands:

My guess is that's because this is an old game on an old engine and it can't do the whole borderless window thing. I'm no expert though, but it seems like borderless windowed mode is something that didn't become a feature until several years after BioShock came out.

the remaster runs on the unreal engine 4 ...

The remaster runs on the same modified Unreal 2.5 engine as the original.

[Coldhands]

Originally posted by overdev:

Originally posted by Coldhands:

My guess is that's because this is an old game on an old engine and it can't do the whole borderless window thing. I'm no expert though, but it seems like borderless windowed mode is something that didn't become a feature until several years after BioShock came out.

the remaster runs on the unreal engine 4 ...

You'll need to provide a link for that.

[anarchy]

Yeah, pretty annoying to have to use an extra program to do it, thought this was pretty much standard by now.

[BDK]

Originally posted by Flappy Pannus:

It should have it definitely, but you can force it with the Borderless Gaming utility.

https://github.com/Codeusa/Borderless-Gaming/releases

Thanks! Will def try it out.

[☢ GoldFish (SVK) ☢]

Always wondered - why do some people prefer borderless windowed to regular fullscreen considering fullscreen performs better?

[Flappy Pannus]

Originally posted by Goldfish:

Always wondered - why do some people prefer borderless windowed to regular fullscreen considering fullscreen performs better?

Scroll up, I answered this.

[Coldhands]

^^I've got a double monitor setup, and a lot of times I'll have a podcast or a video running on the other screen. I like to be able to just mouse over there and hit pause when I need to hear what's being said in the game. Or I'm looking something game related up online.

[Midnight Sky ✨🌙✨]

Originally posted by Goldfish:

Always wondered - why do some people prefer borderless windowed to regular fullscreen considering fullscreen performs better?

I don't want to have to worry about a game breaking when I alt+tab.

[anarchy]

No alt tabbing issues, no v sync.