Confused about the first Big Daddy

[mbutton15]

I don't understand what is going on or what I need to do.

Most of the time I get killed and respawned. When that happens the little girl is not always with the Big Daddy after respawning. Is this a bug ?

One time I managed to kill the Big Daddy after I respawned so it looks like my damaged on him is accumulated across all deaths. Is that true ? I noticed my ammo used before death is not returned so guess that makes sense. But he had no Little Girl.

Now I've just managed to kill him as I got lucky and he got stuck behind a pole so he couldn't attack me !! However, the little girl that was there before I started the attack was nowhere to be found. Should she vanish like that ?

And a new Big Daddy turned up (without Little Girl) and killed me.

What am I supposed to be doing ?

[Kayscerato]

A Big Daddy only attacks when you attack first or when you get too close to him or his Little Sister. And the damage caused does not change if you die. It will stay the same as before your death.
The little ones are not supposed to dissapear... They stay there and cry after you defeat the Big Daddy, so it must be a bug or you are not paying enough attention where they are. You do not have to kill more Big Daddies if you already collected all the little girls from your level.
* There are some parts of the game where you have to fight a Big Daddy, even if he doesn't have a little sister with him (if I am not mistaken).

[mbutton15]

So I can just ignore him ? Scuttle off out the room without engaging in combat and get on with the rest of the game ? And, therefore, not harvest/free the Little Girl ? Or is that compulsory ?

The girl was definitely not there afterwards. Could I have killed her accidentally ? I did search a nearby room and then when wandering around the rest of the area did not see her. Instead I heard the Big Daddy stomping around and then when found him he had no Little Girl in tow.

I haven't collected any Little Girls, apart from the one when you are introduced to them.

[mbutton15]

OK, so I managed to take the Big Daddy down without dying, but then got killed by an NPC I hadn't noticed !! Thankfully after being respawned I went back to where I killed him and the girl was there. So I set her free and found my way to the end of the level.

Originally posted by Kayz_in:

You do not have to kill more Big Daddies if you already collected all the little girls from your level.

How do I know if I've collected all the Little Girls from a level ? Or are they just impossible to miss events ?

[steelernator]

it will show you at the bottom of the pause menu how many little sisters you have left in each area.

[mbutton15]

Originally posted by steelernator:

it will show you at the bottom of the pause menu how many little sisters you have left in each area.

Ah, OK. I did notice a couple of circles at the bottom of the main menu screen that I hadn't noticed before. I'm going to go with I got them all in that level then. :)


I also have a theory on the Little Girls 'disappearence'.
I started my attack when the Big Daddy was sat at one of those panels in the wall. One time when I managed to kill the Big Daddy and not find the girl another Big Daddy turned up. As I was watching him he went to one of those wall panels and the Little Girl came out of the circle in the wall panel.

So my theory is the girl went in the wall panel as I launched my attack !! It is just a theory, but after reloading my save I made sure the Big Daddy was nowhere near a wall panel when I started the attack. When I killed the Big Daddy the Little Girl was there next to him as I hadn't started the attack near a panel. Coincidence ??!!

[wilky]

It's not a bug. It's just normal game/AI behavior. If you sit back and watch them, the Big Daddies' normal routine is that they escort & protect Little Sisters who gather Adam from downed corpses. After a certain number of gathers, the Big Daddy will then escort the Little Sister to the nearest vent (those large metal things) and the Little Sister will crawl inside, disappearing. If you attack the Big Daddy during this time while he is without a Little Sister, then the fight was kinda a waste, because you won't be able to pick up the Little Sister and gain Adam. But if you wait for a minute, the Big Daddy will walk over to another vent and he will summon another Little Sister. This is their standard routine; they summon a Sister from a vent, walk around with her for several minutes, then they return her to a vent. So before you trigger a fight, make sure the Sister is present!

The fights are optional, but players are incentivized to trigger the encounters before moving onto the next level because these encounters are the primary way you will gain Adam to purchase upgrades for your health, tonics, & abilities, etc.

[mbutton15]

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[mbutton15]

I've defeated the Big Daddy at the start of the second area (called Harbours Bounty, or something like that). But now another one has turned up in the same area, complete with Little Sister. I do take my time exploring so think it's turned up as I explored and left areas a few times in that area.

The menu suggests there are 3 Little Sisters in this chapter but I'm guessing this 'replacement' one is not one of them ?

I've also got a new toy that turns a Big Daddy into my protector - is that just an easy way to defeat them ?

[wilky]

There are usually 3 per level. That replacement Daddy (and Sister) will count toward the 3 if you take care of 'em. Then, the game will spawn another one with a 3rd Little Sister, and you can go ahead & get it out of the way if you want.

The game will still keep spawning replacement Big Daddies at that point, but there will be no more Little Sisters. The Big Daddies will actually walk around knocking on vents, trying to find a Little Sister at that point. And remember, they will be passive to you so don't attack them... just stay out of their way.

[whentoquit]

As I was playing and observing a Big Daddy with a little sister I saw the little sister climb onto the Big Daddy and crawl through one of the openings of the gold portals that are scattered around. Maybe that is what happened.

[Semi]

From what I remember you can give the vent a hit with your wrench, like the Big Daddy does and the little sister will climb out.
Or was that some other game I am thinking of? It has been a while.

[mbutton15]

Originally posted by Semi:

From what I remember you can give the vent a hit with your wrench, like the Big Daddy does and the little sister will climb out.
Or was that some other game I am thinking of? It has been a while.

That's part of the story line, towards the end of BS1.