Impossible Boy vs. Zombie Boy

[Krauvando]

So far there's discussion on the community about which one of these two achievements is harder. Whatcha think people? Did you feel more stressed with Cotton Alley Dark World? Or maybe zombie meat boys were more painful to you?

As for me, I'm kinda surprised there is a discussion actually. Up to me, Impossible Boy is WAAAAAY harder. I managed to get Zombie Boy and surprisingly it has not taken as many attempts as I expected (although I'll admit it got me tons of frustration. Do you know how it feels to die at the very last jump of 5-3x when it's your las level before the achievement? Oh boy.).

Dark Rapture has some levels such as 5-9x or 5-19x that are pretty unpredictable for some odd reasons (I found that zombie meat boys does not always respond at the same movements so patterns are harder to find), but Dark Cotton Alley is simply ridiculous. I haven't put myself serious on it yet but I'm already absolutely sure this one's several times harder.

It just has so many unpredictible levels, and some others require an EXTREME accuracy on your jumps. Some other levels have a clear path but it just looks like they're really missable if you're under pressure (remember: your biggest enemy in this game is yourself.). Moreover you cannot choose characters on these levels so you just must have balls of steel.

So, what about you? Which achievement brought you (or is bringing you) more trouble in terms of difficulty and frustration?

[TBB Gatonekra]

I...I....I just started ;_;

[Krauvando]

Originally posted by TBB Gatonekra:

I...I....I just started ;_;

Then welcome to Super Meat Boy World! The world for non-casual gamers where your patience will be tested, and your persistance is your most effective weapon!

Nah, just take it easy. Is true, though. At first when you're playing SMB for your first hours you're feeling like "Oh My God, is this actually even possible? IS THIS POSSIBLE TO DO WITHOUT DYING!? 20 LEVELS IN A ROW!?!?". But as long as you keep playing, those thought will be disappearing.

Trust me, I suck at 2D platform games. I tried a lot of them and eventually got bored because I wasn't feeling any progress. SMB is the first one that kept me playing for a long time; not sure about the reasons, actually. Maybe this game had something I felt more addictive.

And here I am, blaming my patience when I only miss ONE achievement. This was something I was ABSOLUTELY SURE I wouldn't be able to achieve at first, and I still can't believe I got that far. But this is simply true: keep playing, and you'll be a boss.

Good luck!

[sam]

I just achieved Girl Boy and I found it way harder than Zombie Boy, especially because I could not use alt characters such as the Kid or Captain Viridian that really help you skip through some long levels.

Just like you, I wouldn’t have imagined that I could get almost all those no-death achievements. Many of them looked impossible to me three months ago. But time and practice really make you play better. I am now pondering doing Impossible Boy, but I’m not sure. Some levels are just terribly unforgiving and not even fun to be honest (I’m thinking 7-2X, 7-15X, 7-19X).

[Krauvando]

Originally posted by sam:

I just achieved Girl Boy :dealwithit: and I found it way harder than Zombie Boy, especially because I could not use alt characters such as the Kid or Captain Viridian that really help you skip through some long levels.

Just like you, I wouldn’t have imagined that I could get almost all those no-death achievements. Many of them looked impossible to me three months ago. But time and practice really make you play better. I am now pondering doing Impossible Boy, but I’m not sure. Some levels are just terribly unforgiving and not even fun to be honest (I’m thinking 7-2X, 7-15X, 7-19X).

Congrats mate, go on it, you're close!
And yeah, it's pretty interesting how Girl Boy was WAAAY more frustrating than Zombie Boy for me, but I'm not sure if I can say it was harder.

Anyway, Impossible Boy is a nice paradox 'cause some levels are easier on their Dark World version than on the Light World one. 7-15x was actually easier for me than 7-15! There's a consistent pattern if you do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqiopDGfu_w

And yeah, 7-19x was a PAIN for me at first, but I eventually got the trick thanks to this other video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhTYcatsJCA

Trust me, the trick is so good this was my last level before getting the achievement: http://youtu.be/OCjYCgXE3D8

Good luck mate! Don't hesitate now!

[sam]

Thanks, I guess I needed to read something like that in order to actually try. I first did a complete run of Cotton Alley Dark world 4 days ago, and I died 405 times. Now I just finished my 11th run and I only died 17 times. Impossible Boy is definitely within reach!

[sam]

Finally got it this evening! Thanks for the encouragements, that was helpful. For the record, my strategy was to first complete 14 20 7 8 9, then all the remaining levels from 1 to 19.

[Krauvando]

Originally posted by sam:

Finally got it this evening! Thanks for the encouragements, that was helpful. For the record, my strategy was to first complete 14 20 7 8 9, then all the remaining levels from 1 to 19.

Congratulations man! You now belong to that 0.1% of SMB population that has every achievements without any hack ! Glad I've been useful, how did it feel? That achievement is one of my most valuables and actually I freaked out when I got it haha

Nice one dude!

[sam]

Originally posted by Krauvando:

Congratulations man! You now belong to that 0.1% of SMB population that has every achievements without any hack !

Where does that figure come, by the way? My personal guess is closer to 0.01% actually. Here’s my reasoning: I estimated that Dr.Fetus Boy was 10 times easier (it only has 5 levels, and I achieved it in only one day, whereas Impossible Boy took me a bit more than 2 weeks). Since the stats for these achievements are 0.70% and 0.60%, the maths give: 0.59% cheaters, 0.11% legit Dr.Fetus Boy, 0.01% legit Impossible Boy.

Glad I've been useful, how did it feel? That achievement is one of my most valuables and actually I freaked out when I got it haha

When I got the achievement, I felt nothing but emptiness. I stared blankly at the wall, unsure of what I would now do with my life. Haha, just kidding, I immediately went back to improve my times on 7-2X and 7-20X because the no-death runs had forced me to use safe but slow routes.

[Krauvando]

Originally posted by sam:

Originally posted by Krauvando:

Congratulations man! You now belong to that 0.1% of SMB population that has every achievements without any hack !

Where does that figure come, by the way? My personal guess is closer to 0.01% actually. Here’s my reasoning: I estimated that Dr.Fetus Boy was 10 times easier (it only has 5 levels, and I achieved it in only one day, whereas Impossible Boy took me a bit more than 2 weeks). Since the stats for these achievements are 0.70% and 0.60%, the maths give: 0.59% cheaters, 0.11% legit Dr.Fetus Boy, 0.01% legit Impossible Boy.

Glad I've been useful, how did it feel? That achievement is one of my most valuables and actually I freaked out when I got it haha

When I got the achievement, I felt nothing but emptiness. I stared blankly at the wall, unsure of what I would now do with my life. Haha, just kidding, I immediately went back to improve my times on 7-2X and 7-20X because the no-death runs had forced me to use safe but slow routes.

0.01% might be too much since there's some challenge-lovers arround here. But I'd consider 0.05% or so

BTW this makes me think how stupid it is to hack achievements like SMB ones.

[eMbAh]

I got it!! This one is by FAR the hardest. I didn't have to over practice the other levels the way I had to with this one and there were several times where I had 3, 2 of 1 level remaining where I died. Examples are 7-12x, 7-11x, 7-19x. My planned route in the end was: 7-8-9- 20 -1-2-3-4-5-6
13-14-15-16-17-18-19 10-11-12 but it ended up being 18-19-20 7-8-9 1-2-3-4-5-6 13-14-15-16-17 12-10-11.

[sam]

Congrats! Welcome to the restricted club! And yeah, 7-8-9 were a real nightmare.

[Dark_Turn]

You're right, it's not even close. I just got Zombie Boy today, and it's much easier than impossible boy (and even girl boy, for that matter) for a couple of reasons.

1 - Dark Rapture allows you to use different characters, which makes several levels significantly easier. For example, 5-10x can be exploited with Viridian, 5-1x can be circumvented almost entirely with the Kid, 5-6x is child's play if you use Ogmo, and 5-12x is much easier with the Kid. There aren't many levels in Cotton Alley that I find easily surpassable in the same way I find these levels.

2 - The hardest levels in Dark Rapture are not even close to as difficult as the hardest levels in Dark Cotton Alley. 5-8x, 5-19x, 5-9x, 5-15x, and 5-16x are the most difficult Rapture levels for me, but they don't scare me the way that Dark Cotton Alley does.

Anyway, I'm a little bit biased because I have yet to seriously try getting Impossible Boy (I'm sure I'll get it one of these days), but I don't imagine I'll do it nearly as easily as I did Zombie Boy. Just my two cents.