Suggestions & Questions, from a former Kart Racer.

[Dopey]

Hello Kart Devs, I am very excited for your game. I use to play a different Kart game a few years back on PC, I believe it was Kart Racing Pro.

Great game for its time. I am hoping this title here will fill in those shoes.

I come from a family of racers.. My siblings and I all raced alcohol fueled race karts when we were young. Some of us still have the old racing Karts stored away in the garage. My brother and I use to get into a bit of trouble taking ours onto the 1/8th mile running track of our school nearby, and running 50-70 mph around it til the county cops came and ruined our good fun making us walk them home to confront our parents.

When we weren't out terrorizing our local neighborhood and school playground with our Karts, we took them to our local race track. However our racetracks were made of dirt and clay.. never did we get to witness the feel of asphalt Kart racing aside from the festival like place nearby that rented karts. Which is why I am here to ask if asphalt is the only track types we will see?

I am interested in both types, dirt and asphalt. Very much different from each other, involving a different style of racing and setups. I would enjoy to see many obstacle courses, as well as oval tracks. Short ovals if possible. I see in the trailer that it is mainly obstacle, however I figured it would be worth it to ask about your plans?

I had seen another post discussing "damage", and the OP suggesting to go as far out as your engine can go with it. I like the idea of shattering fiberglass, flat tires, blown tires, worn tires, or heck even no tires at all. I wrecked our training cart once, had no body on it.. just a basic framed kart for training. Steering wheel cotterpin broke off and steering wheel popped off in my face, plowed a pole strategically placed in my path and it flung me outside the kart over a fence.. luckily I walked away, and the go kart drove on 3 wheels, frame bent.. chassis kinked out of shape. We fixed it back up, but it was never the same.. a bit wobbly.

I am adding this because I think the immersion of injury and permanent damage to your karts would be a great thing for both the feeling of actually being a Kart racer, and multiplayer.. when people only want to have a wreck fest because their skills do not compete with the person ahead of them. We see it in too many racing games. However I feel when there is some kind of penalty.. repair costs, permanent damage to your Kart/ride.. it might pursuade one to actually take the time to practice to get better, rather than cut the corner and T bone the guy ahead of them in the turn to gain a position on the track.

I have many more discussions for this game, and I feel like I am writing a bible on Kart racing atm. I will see where this discussion leads before adding any more thoughts and ideas into the fray.

Thank you Devs for your time and dedication into this line of racing games.

It is much needed!

[Z]

Hi DopeyZero9 - It sounds like a very fun childhood! A few comments based on your suggestions:

1) Although dirt and oval karting won't be in the Early Access launch version, it's a form of karting we are very interested in recreating either during the EA phase or for the full release of KartKraft.

2) As permanent damage has been requested multiple times already and KartKraft already simulates bent chassis' etc, we are looking at how this (Perma-damage) can be integrated in the game whilst still being fun and not overly frustrating.

We'd love to hear more of your suggestions!

[hunterPRO1]

you should be careful with permanent damage
do it wrong and trolls will just crash others (inevitable) but only then it permanatly effects your progress!

[Dopey]

Thank you for your reply!

Topic 1 I am very excited to hear about. Thank you for covering this question. I know some find Oval tracks to be boring, but to us speed seekers.. Oval is our playground.

I thought about how Permanent damage might not be too fustrating, and it would kind of involve having a Garage of Karts to own and some kind of credit/cash system.

Different tiers of Karts - starting off with your basic Tier, with this Tier being your starter, always accessible to buy for free or free to repair to normal.

As for the higher Tier Karts, having parts like the chassis for example. You damage it during a race. During the race you can repair it to finish out the race or however you can implement it. Then after the race when you are at your garage you can choose to replace the chassis by buying a new one, repair the current one for a cheap fee - or free - with it being free you can choose for that exact chassis to have a durability bar, or such.. and everytime someone does a free repair it takes from the durability of that part. Ultimately you can choose to upgrade to a better chassis, maybe one that has more durability.. or a lighter/heavier frame..

Again these are only suggestions from myself. As far out as they sound they might be useful to come up with ideas from.

As for Injury to your "racer".. are you considering personal injuries as well?

[Heddly]

Originally posted by DopeyZero9:

Hello Kart Devs, I am very excited for your game. I use to play a different Kart game a few years back on PC, I believe it was Kart Racing Pro.

Great game for its time. I am hoping this title here will fill in those shoes.

I come from a family of racers.. My siblings and I all raced alcohol fueled race karts when we were young. Some of us still have the old racing Karts stored away in the garage. My brother and I use to get into a bit of trouble taking ours onto the 1/8th mile running track of our school nearby, and running 50-70 mph around it til the county cops came and ruined our good fun making us walk them home to confront our parents.

When we weren't out terrorizing our local neighborhood and school playground with our Karts, we took them to our local race track. However our racetracks were made of dirt and clay.. never did we get to witness the feel of asphalt Kart racing aside from the festival like place nearby that rented karts. Which is why I am here to ask if asphalt is the only track types we will see?

I am interested in both types, dirt and asphalt. Very much different from each other, involving a different style of racing and setups. I would enjoy to see many obstacle courses, as well as oval tracks. Short ovals if possible. I see in the trailer that it is mainly obstacle, however I figured it would be worth it to ask about your plans?

Thank you Devs for your time and dedication into this line of racing games.

It is much needed!

Sounds like we are both big fans of dirt, DopeyZero9
I was young with 3 brothers when I started with GoKarts, school and other empty parking lots with cones set up. :)
Later I raced dirt ovals at Lawrenceburg Speedway and Glencoe Speedway, Ky on dirt ovals.

http://imgur.com/wT8vgry

[Dopey]

Originally posted by Heddly:

Sounds like we are both big fans of dirt, DopeyZero9
I was young with 3 brothers when I started with GoKarts, school and other empty parking lots with cones set up. :)
Later I raced dirt ovals at Lawrenceburg Speedway and Glencoe Speedway, Ky on dirt ovals.

http://imgur.com/wT8vgry

That picture looks like a good day of fun!

I am a very big fan of dirt racing Heddly.

I grew up at the local speedways watching some of todays best mold into what they are. Older brother keeps the racing alive in the family racing open wheeled modified on dirt, traveling all the tracks around Illinois. I have always had a passion to race Sprint Cars, as dangerous as they are.

It is always nice to meet a fellow dirt track fan. Not too many games cover the roots of racing.

We always played the PC games by Ratbag called "Dirt Track Racing". If you haven't ever played it, Gamespy is long gone and multiplayer might only be around on DTR 2, but it is a game well worth playing.

[Heddly]

"open wheeled modified on dirt", what a coincidence. I did race at Florence Speedway, Ky. LOL

http://i.imgur.com/ZZkfHrv.jpg

[Dopey]

Originally posted by Heddly:

http://i.imgur.com/ZZkfHrv.jpg

That looks like a real fun time Heddly. I like the older open wheeled, the old 57 chevy's, the 68 camaros.. was always awesome to see those older body style race cars. I'm just nearing 30 years old but I remember when they ran them, and I try to go and see them on the special "Old Timers" events.