Vandal Hearts and Vagrant Story

[traykey]

Would love to play these on steam.
Happy days for sure.

[Xariot]

Sorry, we tried to get them on here but there was a terrible accident and the names got combined together and made totally different games!

http://store.steampowered.com/app/337980/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/359670/

[Melodia]

Vandal Hearts is horrible. I mean, it's got one of the worse reward/punishment systems I've ever seen in a game. It's by Konami anyway.

Vagrant Story is only moderately better (and it's not a TRPG so why ask?). One mistake in your weapons and you do 1-2 damage? No thank you.

[traykey]

Ouch lol.Yeah I know what your saying.
Just a lot of fond memories,would not stand up today I guess ha ha.

[nojairk748]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Vandal Hearts is horrible. I mean, it's got one of the worse reward/punishment systems I've ever seen in a game. It's by Konami anyway.

Really? I'm presuming you're referring to Vandal Hearts 2 or 'Flames of Judgement', as the original (from 1995) has easily one of the best reward/punishment systems I've ever seen, and made it a shockingly fun game. The only thing I disliked about the system was that if you somehow fell behind in terms of power (which was actually rather difficult), you couldn't perform an optional grind like you could in Flames of Judgement or Final Fantasy Tactics. But otherwise, I'd argue that Vandal Hearts, with its surprisingly very well designed battlefields and varying mission/formation style made it one of the better entries of the genre to this day.

[uglyday]

We played the Vandal Hearts opening theme at Funcoland all the time. Best bloodsprays in a game ever?!

[Melodia]

No, the original and it was horrible. One character falls in battle, you get less money so you have to settle for inferior equips....which means more likely to do worse next time, and get less money, and so on. With the fact that you can't 'train' it makes for an utterly disgusting experiance.

[KaiTenSatsuma]

I know Vagrant Hearts is widely available online....what's stopping you other than your conscience? (Which, granted, is somewhat tamped down knowing that these games and many other PS1 and PS2 games will never again see the light of day)

[Hykzqwmx]

Originally posted by Melodia:

No, the original and it was horrible. One character falls in battle, you get less money so you have to settle for inferior equips....which means more likely to do worse next time, and get less money, and so on. With the fact that you can't 'train' it makes for an utterly disgusting experiance.

why you hating the game cause of that?,
thats the concept of the game, if u do bad, u will suffer on the later stage of game, or you had to chose who to lvl up more and some char suffer with low lvl, or take the average of all. which become more of plan ur battle ahead more than brute force
i personally love vandal heart cause the fact u dont need or more to say cant grindfest till u had over powered character.

[ivanp3000]

Originally posted by traykey:

Would love to play these on steam.
Happy days for sure.

I remember playing vargrant story on the ps1 when I was a kid and I was not able to finish it because I lacked weapons that specialized on killing certain enemies.

[Matron Malice]

I still have both my copies for PS1 so I can play them on that but it would be cool to see either on Steam so I don't have to bother with the PS1. Vagrant Story is one of the best games I've ever played, sort of reminds me a bit of Dark Souls in it's unforgiving nature.

[KaiTenSatsuma]

I wouldn't call it "unforgiving", just keep two weapons or so on hand.

Know what got me with that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game? When I was getting to the final boss, I didn't realize I had to throw a switch.

there is literally only one other place in the whole game you interact with a switch, and its right before the first real boss, the Minotaur.

I spent an hour trying to figure that out...

[greentiger]

Originally posted by Melodia:

No, the original and it was horrible. One character falls in battle, you get less money so you have to settle for inferior equips....which means more likely to do worse next time, and get less money, and so on. With the fact that you can't 'train' it makes for an utterly disgusting experiance.

What are you talking about? That game was not that hard at all. Even if you fell "behind" in equipment you could sell all the other items you found in the chests and secret areas. And yes, you can train, you just got to go to the "Dojos" when you're in town and when you are at a level that's a multiple of 10 (10, 20, 30, etc) and you even get your new class' starting equipment for free.

You only lost like 100 gold per ally that was felled, and usually the monster kills give you more than that.

[KEV1N]

With the exception of a couple of boss encounters you have to either be mentally handicapped or actually trying to get yourself killed in Vandal Hearts.

Vagrant story lets you customize and keep multiple sets of gear which you can equip during battle to deal with various situations so you shouldn't ever be doing 1-2 damage.

[ThexRedxJester]

Originally posted by Melodia:

No, the original and it was horrible. One character falls in battle, you get less money so you have to settle for inferior equips....which means more likely to do worse next time, and get less money, and so on. With the fact that you can't 'train' it makes for an utterly disgusting experiance.

Then get good? Not that hard, Omg, you have to repeat the battle to get better results?! that's like....TRAINING...Wait? You didn't save often before each fight? Sounds like you were unprepared. LoL, Vandal Hearts was awesome, you just sucked at it clearly.