Laharl and Etna?

[Noble Ten]

Is Laharl just a beast for a character ? or is Etna pretty weak O_o I cant really tell.

Laharl with 42 health and 27 attack, Etna with 17 health and 14 attack. As I have just started there is this much different. all Apitudes 100% Well since I have played other Disgaeas games (D2, D3, D4 and DD2), all apitudes at 100% is kinda bad <.< Means they have no strengths to build on.

[ShinkuTear]

Laharl starts with an Emblem gives +20 HP, +10 to all other stats, and possible innocents. Etna does not. Etna also starts with a Spear, a naturally weak weapon type.

Disgaea 1, almost all monsters and Uniques have 100% Aptitude. Anything above 100% is somewhat rare. Disgaea 2 is what started the pattern of everyone having something above 100%

Characters with over 100%: Lady Samurai, Mage and Skull, Ninja, Scout, Archer, EDF, Majin, Galactic Demon, Angel. Those should be all generics with 110 or better in an aptitude. For uniques: Thursday, Priere, Marjoly, Baal, Prinny Baal.

[Uimet]

Etna is a pretty trash character over all I trained both at the same time the difference between divine majin vs laharl vs etna is Super huge etna just cant put up a fight

[Uimet]

Also I notice Etna get poisoned and other debuff very easily compare to laharl and Majin in general

like etna has a 80% poison rate on my play throught

[ShinkuTear]

Divine Majin is the ultimate Humanoid unit, just about EVERYTHING is bad compared to one.

The various weapon types all have their strengths and weaknesses. Depending on what Laharl was using and what Etna was using, that alone shifts the balance. Sword being very powerful, for example. Give Etna a sword and get her up to Winged Slayer, while Laharl uses a Fist or Spear, and Etna will seem pretty good.

Laharl and Etna both have the same natural resists for all ailments, which is 1. High end Majin have 99. If Etna gets poisoned more, she is being hit with Poison inducing attacks more.

[Noble Ten]

Ah, so Preire is in this game (I assumed it was D2 and on). I just finished La Pucelle last week and I plan to do newgame+ and do the dark world stuff, then maybe her special overlord chapters after that. but thought I'd take a break from it for a while and move onto Disgaea 1, like I am doing now :p

yeah, generally spears are weaker then swords and axes, I know that part. But it seemed a huge difference even still at the time, I didnt look into the item bonus like mentioned above. Guess that made the difference. The thing with spears is the 2 range reach, meaning you can attack without being countered (in other Disgaea games they get a speed buff with spears too) But I found with D2-4, team attacks become usless from mid-late game, it all becomes skill attacks. But in DD2 they address it by making team attacks more useful, so thats a good thing as it wont be all skill spam later on, But put my DD2 game on hold while I've started to play some of the earlier games. Well the only reason I think I'll continue Etna with spears is because its her cannon weapon :/ But I see if I want to get the best out of her, axes would be the way to go :/ Think I saw shes A with axes ?

Disgaea 1 was the only game of the series I found unobtainable, only until Lord Gabe came to our rescue ^_~

[Uimet]

Originally posted by Noble Tenshi:

Ah, so Preire is in this game (I assumed it was D2 and on). I just finished La Pucelle last week and I plan to do nogame+ and do the dark world stuff, then maybe her special overlord chapters after that. but thought I'd take a break from it for a while and move onto Disgaea 1, like I am doing now :p

yeah, generally spears are weaker then swords and axes, I know that part. But it seemed to huge a difference even still at the time, I didnt look into the item bonus like mentioned above. Guess that made the difference. The thing with spears is the 2 range reach, meaning you can attack without being countered (in other Disgaea games they get a speed buff with spears too) But I found with D2-4, team attacks become usless from mid-late game, it all becames skill attacks. But in DD2 they made team attacks more useful, so thats a good thing as it wont be all skill spam later on, But put my DD2 game on hold while I've started to play some of the earlier games. Well the only reason I think I'll continue Etna with spears is because its her cannon weapon :/ But I see if I want to get the best out of her, axes would be the way to go :/

Disgaea 1 was the only game of the series I found unobtainable, only until Lord Gabe came to our rescue ^_~

That is true about spear able to attack without getting counter but in the super late game you would actually want to be countered to do more damage per turn to speed up the fight in general

And also the legendary sword Yoshitsuna is not just a sword its a sword but it has special effect on it, it can hit 6 block range if i am not mistaken

[ShinkuTear]

Yep, the Yoshi has an attack range of 5 or 6, the same as a Gun, along with all the general awesome of being a Sword, and being one of the strongest weapons in the game.

[Bomb Bloke]

Heck, the Yoshi even ups your movement range. What's not to love? If only they could hit as hard as the Apocalypse, it'd have it all...

Originally posted by ShinkuTear:

If Etna gets poisoned more, she is being hit with Poison inducing attacks more.

Well, that or it's something to do with the equipped specialists.

Also sorta worth noting that Laharl may be getting some minor pupil buffs.

Originally posted by GamerJHSG:

That is true about spear able to attack without getting counter but in the super late game you would actually want to be countered to do more damage per turn to speed up the fight in general

Personally, I consider the late-game to be the point where you're one-shotting nearly everything, so the number of kills per action matters more than anything.

Spears are... adequate in this regard, as are Fists. Swords are still better, of course, and Axes aren't much use at all.

[Rachel]

I recommend giving Etna an axe after a few levels to give her that extra kick in damage. The only reason you shouldn't give her an axe right away is because axes reduce HIT, and most characters typically don't have much to start with anyways.

[windwyrd]

[ice]

the real reason etna sucks is because her specials suck, not because of her stats

alot of character specials in disgaea 1 are nearly worthless and you're just better off using a weapon special or spell instead

they fixed this in disgaea 2 where most of the abilities are much more balanced

[red255]

Yeah, get a bunch of those +all stats items and level them up to 30 in the item world and put them on people. even the lowest tier one is pretty good stuff.

and yeah. possibly switch the spear out for something else.

Plenair apparently starts with one, take it off Plenair and give it to Etna if you want to compare to Laharl, you also get a slightly better one from the infirmary, but I mostly get them from the bonus list at a certain level.

[bendezium2003]

The main issue with Etna is that her natural specials are more finicky than Laharl's, although since most of them have at least decent reach minmaxing her single target damage with Axes is my personal preference. Also her Sexy Beam is INT based.

At least Chaos Impact kicks serious ass for an area attack that only hits things exactly 2 tiles away from her, it's great for AOE grinding in Item World because the randomly generated mobs love to cluster in ways that make it easier for her to hit multiple targets.

[!?!]

She also only has 1 counter, her best area coverage weapons are spears and her abilities cover overly specific, mostly useless ground which just makes her a pain to grind with.