Turok PC Soundtrack?

[Spooky799kil]

Since this game is now re-relased on PC again to work on steam, I am wondering if they will allow an option for the PC version's soundtrack. For those who don't know, the PC version had the orginal soundtrack that was intented for the game but when they ported it over the N64, the due to the cartridge having lower memory they had to compress and change the soundtrack for the game. So essentially the game has two very different soundtracks.

Now I grew up playing the N64 version probably like everyone else here so I do have nostalgia. But in my opinion, I think the PC soundtrack is better. Unfournetly the game is using the N64 version soundtrack. And don't tell me this is the N64 port. It has level sections that were not in the N64 version. So may I ask is to why they are using the N64 soundtrack instead of PC soundtrack? Is it due to nostlgia? Serisouly though I want an anwer to that. And I wouldn't mind having the N64 soundtrack in the game if you were allowed to switch it off and enable the PC soundtrack like in the menu or something. Thats what I would really like. I don't want to be a jerk and say to remove N64 soundtrack. Can't we have an option for both? Thats all I ask.

Also for those who don't believe me here are few videos of the PC version's soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNeyX9EcTP4&list=PLHzBV7N-y8QSBYeLkQ5E-H3fXRmRq8sPU&index=7
Though I love the N64 version's Lost Land, after I listened to the PC version's I instantly loved it better but thats just me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUOfXzsyZic&index=14&list=PLHzBV7N-y8QSBYeLkQ5E-H3fXRmRq8sPU

[iddqd13]

just download it from the moding section

[Spooky799kil]

Originally posted by iddqd13:

just download it from the moding section

Download it to replace the N64 soundtrack? Ok there is a solution but doesn't answer my question of why they don't have it and an option for it?

[Coyote Knight]

Quoting Kaiser, the lead dev, "Because the PC has low quality audio for both FX and music".

[Spooky799kil]

Originally posted by Joshua Fireseed:

Quoting Kaiser, the lead dev, "Because the PC has low quality audio for both FX and music".

I don't understand what that means? Is he botching the PC soundtrack or is he saying the version they are remastering had all the compressed N64 FX and music?

[Sire]

Originally posted by Joshua Fireseed:

Quoting Kaiser, the lead dev, "Because the PC has low quality audio for both FX and music".

This is absolutely untrue on the music part, the N64 soundtrack had terrible sound quality (it sounds like low quality .midi rather than drums) but even that aside from a compositional standpoint the music is worse: listen to the music for the final level, the cresendo which builds up in it isn't as effective and the mix levels are really poor.

[Coyote Knight]

Originally posted by Spooky799kil:

Originally posted by Joshua Fireseed:

Quoting Kaiser, the lead dev, "Because the PC has low quality audio for both FX and music".

I don't understand what that means? Is he botching the PC soundtrack or is he saying the version they are remastering had all the compressed N64 FX and music?

He said before that the n64 game has a much better audio quality compared to the raw audio files found in the pc port.

You also need to remember this is a remaster of the n64 game, not a remaster of the pc port.

He didn't enjoy the PC remixes of the soundtrack too.

[Spooky799kil]

Originally posted by Joshua Fireseed:

Originally posted by Spooky799kil:

I don't understand what that means? Is he botching the PC soundtrack or is he saying the version they are remastering had all the compressed N64 FX and music?

He said before that the n64 game has a much better audio quality compared to the raw audio files found in the pc port.

You also need to remember this is a remaster of the n64 game, not a remaster of the pc port.

He didn't enjoy the PC remixes of the soundtrack too.

So beacuse HE didn't enjoy the PC soundtrack he has to ruin it for others? Yes I know now there is way to insert the soundtrack. But he should have included them anyway. And what do you mean better audio quallity. I listened to all the tracks side by side the only reason they sound different is because the N64 version's is compressed and also changed to fit on the N64 Cartridge.

[Coyote Knight]

Originally posted by Spooky799kil:

Originally posted by Joshua Fireseed:

he has to ruin it for others?

What you and what army?

His project, his calls, he's got more pressing matters to attend like the map editor and seeds of evil.

You're a nearly non-existent minority on an already niche game series.

Deal with it.

[Spooky799kil]

Originally posted by Joshua Fireseed:

Originally posted by Spooky799kil:

What you and what army?

His project, his calls, he's got more pressing matters to attend like the map editor and seeds of evil.

You're a nearly non-existent minority on an already niche game series.

Deal with it.

Nostagia at its finest. Whatever. At least someone apprecaites it.

[DoomMarine23]

There is a mod to fix it. The reality is that while we can say its "unprofessional" or not, we're really at his mercy. This was his project and if he didn't exist, this wouldn't exist. At the flick of a wrist he could have left or stopped development a long time ago.

I understand that you want the soundtrack but I don't see the point of disrespect and hostility. Obviously this is business and they're here to make money but this remaster started as TurokEX, a sort of hobby project stemmed from passion.

I don't think Kaiser developed this as a personal insult to you or anyone else so, maybe its time to tone it down?

[Spooky799kil]

Originally posted by Cooki Cream~🐾:

There is a mod to fix it. The reality is that while we can say its "unprofessional" or not, we're really at his mercy. This was his project and if he didn't exist, this wouldn't exist. At the flick of a wrist he could have left or stopped development a long time ago.

I understand that you want the soundtrack but I don't see the point of disrespect and hostility. Obviously this is business and they're here to make money but this remaster started as TurokEX, a sort of hobby project stemmed from passion.

I don't think Kaiser developed this as a personal insult to you or anyone else so, maybe its time to tone it down?

How am I being disrespectful and hostile? Not once have I swore or call him names.

[DDDespair]

http://vgmdb.net/album/5785

AFAIK the only official release of Turok 1 music. Tracks 5-9 are full cd quality. Since Turok 2 had redbook audio for its PC release I'd have assumed Turok 1 had it as well.

[Raziel]

Turok 1 & Turok 2 have better music quality in PC versions. The people who think different only have nostalgia.

[vitz3]

You can find the music files in the game's Music directory. The ogg files can probably be swapped out with other ogg files of the same name. As long as they're not doing some kind of checksum on the files or other kind of permissions thing, the game should load up whatever ogg files you toss in. So you could probably rip the music from the old PC version, re-encode them and plop 'em in.

I think they should remain the same length however, not 100% on that but you won't know until you try it.

[Turbo Nozomix]

In all of these remasters, like for Age of Empires, or for Duke 3D, or for Homeworld, or Battlezone, I think it's great if the devs include options like having both original soundtrack / sound-rendered to choose from (Turok, Age of Empires, Duke 3D), or the original textures (Battlezone, Homeworld), and such details as that. Often, these remasters do include these options, and I think it would be cool if the PC soundtrack was selectable in the options menu in Turok HD.

It's not just a preference thing, it's also a historical preservation. Remember, a lot of these remasters are catering to nostalgia, and those original details are big parts of the nostalgia for some people. And they matter to history geeks, as well.