finding keys to get into the next level

[scrunt]

this is a really tedious mechanic given how obscurely hidden some of them are and it feels like it makes the concept of finding secrets in these types of games mandatory. I don't like having to scour levels on repeat just to play more of the game
does the second game also have this issue?

[Seamus]

Not exactly an "issue". But, yes. The second game has secrets and requires exploring the levels.

[DoomMarine23]

The second game also has an optional assist option of an objective marker that appears near key items such as switches to activate beacons. But yes, if you are unhappy with this, you'll be even more unhappy in Turok 2.

[scrunt]

Originally posted by DoomMarine23:

The second game also has an optional assist option of an objective marker that appears near key items such as switches to activate beacons. But yes, if you are unhappy with this, you'll be even more unhappy in Turok 2.

See I dont even mind looking for secrets and such in these games and often do but having them be required to get to a new level kind of sucks. I SCOURED the two levels available to me for keys and was still coming up short for getting a new level. In any other game like this I would have been satisfied at this point and went to the next level, but in this game it's not an option.

[HALO_run]

Originally posted by scrungo:

Originally posted by DoomMarine23:

The second game also has an optional assist option of an objective marker that appears near key items such as switches to activate beacons. But yes, if you are unhappy with this, you'll be even more unhappy in Turok 2.

See I dont even mind looking for secrets and such in these games and often do but having them be required to get to a new level kind of sucks. I SCOURED the two levels available to me for keys and was still coming up short for getting a new level. In any other game like this I would have been satisfied at this point and went to the next level, but in this game it's not an option.

so level 1 and 2 ? because i may be of help on that

[StronkiTonki]

Yep, same problem.
Finished level 2 and 3, and oops, can't progress because I need more keys.
Kept replaying level 2 like three times and still couldn't find the last key. How absurd to hide mandatory progress in secrets.

In the meantime the game discourages you from exploring, since enemies keep spawning and draining your ammo unless you're playing on the easier difficulties where enemies actually drop ammo.

Yeah I uninstalled this really quickly. Just really ass backwards design.
Hope the later games don't suffer from the same thing. I love exploring and hunting around secrets, but making them mandatory is simply bad, especially when combined with the spawning enemies and the limited lives system.
Literally most of my deaths were from either running out of ammo or making a mistake during a platforming section because I became impatient for having to re-do that platforming section the 50th time because I had to replay the level over and over to find the darn key.

[Seamus]

Originally posted by StronkiTonki:

Yep, same problem.
Finished level 2 and 3, and oops, can't progress because I need more keys.
Kept replaying level 2 like three times and still couldn't find the last key. How absurd to hide mandatory progress in secrets.

In the meantime the game discourages you from exploring, since enemies keep spawning and draining your ammo unless you're playing on the easier difficulties where enemies actually drop ammo.

Yeah I uninstalled this really quickly. Just really ass backwards design.
Hope the later games don't suffer from the same thing. I love exploring and hunting around secrets, but making them mandatory is simply bad, especially when combined with the spawning enemies and the limited lives system.
Literally most of my deaths were from either running out of ammo or making a mistake during a platforming section because I became impatient for having to re-do that platforming section the 50th time because I had to replay the level over and over to find the darn key.

No keys are in secret areas.

Literally none of them.

[Smoke39]

Every key on level 1 is basically handed to you on the main path. Every key on level 2 is plainly visible from the main path. The path to first key on level 3, which is along the main path but might not be entirely obvious on its own, is signposted with life force pickups, and the other two are handed to you on the main path. I wouldn't characterize any of these as "mandatory secrets."

And if you really hate respawning enemies, you can use a mod like this to disable them, or this to customize them and/or ammo drops.

[HALO_run]

Originally posted by StronkiTonki:

Yep, same problem.
Finished level 2 and 3, and oops, can't progress because I need more keys.
Kept replaying level 2 like three times and still couldn't find the last key. How absurd to hide mandatory progress in secrets.

In the meantime the game discourages you from exploring, since enemies keep spawning and draining your ammo unless you're playing on the easier difficulties where enemies actually drop ammo.

Yeah I uninstalled this really quickly. Just really ass backwards design.
Hope the later games don't suffer from the same thing. I love exploring and hunting around secrets, but making them mandatory is simply bad, especially when combined with the spawning enemies and the limited lives system.
Literally most of my deaths were from either running out of ammo or making a mistake during a platforming section because I became impatient for having to re-do that platforming section the 50th time because I had to replay the level over and over to find the darn key.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2BbwHyQGQU this may help i show all the keys, it's a bit blurry tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdMD4-IOT2w

3rd one was cleaner