Spoilers Discussion

[MrWoodenSheep]

What a fantastic game with an awesome atmosphere.

I made this thread for people who want to discuss the game and include spoilers.

So from what I understood so far, we were someone who took part in a crusade and killed during battle. Our soul was damned because we probably murdered innocent people, and so now are trapped in this game. I haven't found every single collectible yet, so there might still be more to figure out.

[glupschipup]

Does Sth actually happen when you delete the game for "blues" sake

[MrWoodenSheep]

Originally posted by glupschipup:

Does Sth actually happen when you delete the game for "blues" sake

Not sure yet, as I left it installed to get all the tickets first. He'll have to suffer a little longer :)

[Jack]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, when it takes your friends list and pretends to be someone else, 10/10 inginuity

[Lazy Fangs]

The usage of the Steam API to troll was indeed good.

My question is, how a 300 year old crusader knows what a game is. And wtf are the tickets for.

[MrWoodenSheep]

Originally posted by Wing Dancer:

The usage of the Steam API to troll was indeed good.

My question is, how a 300 year old crusader knows what a game is. And wtf are the tickets for.

That part really got me.

I'm assuming the tickets must be for some sort of secret ending, but I can't figure out how to get the damn one in Ticket lake!

[Lazy Fangs]

Originally posted by MrWoodenSheep:

Originally posted by Wing Dancer:

The usage of the Steam API to troll was indeed good.

My question is, how a 300 year old crusader knows what a game is. And wtf are the tickets for.

That part really got me.

I'm assuming the tickets must be for some sort of secret ending, but I can't figure out how to get the damn one in Ticket lake!

That's an easy one. Just travel really fast between points

[TheDanman]

Originally posted by Wing Dancer:

The usage of the Steam API to troll was indeed good.

My question is, how a 300 year old crusader knows what a game is. And wtf are the tickets for.

If indeed this crusader theory is true, I would argue that he doesn't need to know how a game works. He just woke up in front of this glowing screen with knobs, buttons and a keyboard and figured out how to control them over time. The devil goes on and on about a "game", but this crusader might have no idea what he's talking about.

[MrWoodenSheep]

Originally posted by Wing Dancer:

Originally posted by MrWoodenSheep:

That part really got me.

I'm assuming the tickets must be for some sort of secret ending, but I can't figure out how to get the damn one in Ticket lake!

That's an easy one. Just travel really fast between points

Oh that makes sense! Thanks, going to give it a try. There are still a few others I need to find. One of the most fun parts of the game was finding all the tickets :)

[MrWoodenSheep]

Originally posted by TheDanman:

Originally posted by Wing Dancer:

The usage of the Steam API to troll was indeed good.

My question is, how a 300 year old crusader knows what a game is. And wtf are the tickets for.

If indeed this crusader theory is true, I would argue that he doesn't need to know how a game works. He just woke up in front of this glowing screen with knobs, buttons and a keyboard and figured out how to control them over time. The devil goes on and on about a "game", but this crusader might have no idea what he's talking about.

And the fact that it takes us time to figure out how to do everything anyway, kind of plays the role of how the crusador feels. Checking all boxes in options, typing different things, clicking all icons. It's intuitive enough for most people to understand.

[Lazy Fangs]

Originally posted by MrWoodenSheep:

Originally posted by Wing Dancer:

That's an easy one. Just travel really fast between points

Oh that makes sense! Thanks, going to give it a try. There are still a few others I need to find. One of the most fun parts of the game was finding all the tickets :)

Whenever I see collectibles that don't help me gameplay wise, I immediately recoil away from them. I'll risk sounding pretentious when I say that I hate the achievement mongering mentality that rose as of late in gaming.

[Lazy Fangs]

Originally posted by TheDanman:

Originally posted by Wing Dancer:

The usage of the Steam API to troll was indeed good.

My question is, how a 300 year old crusader knows what a game is. And wtf are the tickets for.

If indeed this crusader theory is true, I would argue that he doesn't need to know how a game works. He just woke up in front of this glowing screen with knobs, buttons and a keyboard and figured out how to control them over time. The devil goes on and on about a "game", but this crusader might have no idea what he's talking about.

In that light he is required to have puzzle logic solving skills, and the devil admits that many have failed on those. He must've been a scholar and/or extremelly intelligent for his day and age. At least he didn't try to call the glowing box with knobs the devil's toy and just submit himself to purgatory.

I dunno, it just doesn't feel right with the time period. People back then were kinda more dense and closed minded to new ideas than now.

[Lazy Fangs]

Originally posted by MrWoodenSheep:

Originally posted by TheDanman:

If indeed this crusader theory is true, I would argue that he doesn't need to know how a game works. He just woke up in front of this glowing screen with knobs, buttons and a keyboard and figured out how to control them over time. The devil goes on and on about a "game", but this crusader might have no idea what he's talking about.

And the fact that it takes us time to figure out how to do everything anyway, kind of plays the role of how the crusador feels. Checking all boxes in options, typing different things, clicking all icons. It's intuitive enough for most people to understand.

It's intuitive nowadays. We are in a day and age that we know certain things by default. Give a crusader an iPhone and he'll smash it against a rock because the slim box shone unholy light. Hell, give a touch-screen to a person from just 80 years ago and he won't know what to do with it.

[MrWoodenSheep]

Originally posted by Wing Dancer:

Originally posted by MrWoodenSheep:

And the fact that it takes us time to figure out how to do everything anyway, kind of plays the role of how the crusador feels. Checking all boxes in options, typing different things, clicking all icons. It's intuitive enough for most people to understand.

It's intuitive nowadays. We are in a day and age that we know certain things by default. Give a crusader an iPhone and he'll smash it against a rock because the slim box shone unholy light. Hell, give a touch-screen to a person from just 80 years ago and he won't know what to do with it.

I totally see where you're coming from, but first off I'd have to say it's one of those things where you can suspend disbelief a tiny bit for something like that, although if it doesn't feel right it can take you out of the experience.

But I feel like it's one of those things that most people in that position, trapped in a dark room, would be drawn to a glowing screen and try to figure out how it works instead of smashing it. He isn't a caveman. Again, it makes sense that you'd maybe doubt it a bit, but I feel like it's believable.

[Lazy Fangs]

Originally posted by MrWoodenSheep:

Originally posted by Wing Dancer:

It's intuitive nowadays. We are in a day and age that we know certain things by default. Give a crusader an iPhone and he'll smash it against a rock because the slim box shone unholy light. Hell, give a touch-screen to a person from just 80 years ago and he won't know what to do with it.

I totally see where you're coming from, but first off I'd have to say it's one of those things where you can suspend disbelief a tiny bit for something like that, although if it doesn't feel right it can take you out of the experience.

But I feel like it's one of those things that most people in that position, trapped in a dark room, would be drawn to a glowing screen and try to figure out how it works instead of smashing it. He isn't a caveman. Again, it makes sense that you'd maybe doubt it a bit, but I feel like it's believable.

I agree with the suspension of disbelief thing, but the problem is when too much information is given and it collides with a person's world-view or knowledge. Maybe I'm just abusing the stereotype of the crusader who was, in most cases, a ruthless merc who joined on crusades to redeem themselves in the eyes of god/the church, but I don't think that kind of person would want to play a game.

It would be less troublesome for me if we started off as a pony, with no recollection of what we are, and slowly learned that the reality around us is just a figment, a "program" or whatever, and that we aren't indeed a pony, but a human, a crusader!

In that case I could relate more to being a crusader. Being a player that roleplays a soul that's actually a crusader... It kinda stretches it for me - too deep of an identity inception.

[Neoman]

Eh if you were stuck in a room with text that talks to you, I think you'd be willing to give it some leeway regardless which time period you're from.
Or maybe we're just a particularly open-minded crusader :V