What is the difference between Nekromant and Necromancer?

[rusty_dragon]

No, seriously. I don't get it. %) Can someone explain?

[Althaea]

Necromancer and Nekromant, you mean?

The Nekromant can be seen as a variant of the Necromancer, or rather, as a hybrid between it and the Burgmeister class. In theory the Nekromant has better (or more massable) recruitable troops than the Necromancer and has earlier and more numerous access to immortal/undead leaders, but lacks the raw magical power of the Necromancer and their troops and economy is worse than that of the Burgmeister.

In practice the Nekromant is one of the weaker classes of the game since it's not very good at being a Necromancer and not very good at being a Burgmeister. They've received a few buffs in the latest patch which makes them a bit more viable, though, and if you do get far enough into the game you will be able to field a lot of mobile and immortal vampires.

[rusty_dragon]

Is it svenska/romanian version of Necromancers who serve Dracula?

[rusty_dragon]

I mean in literature sence. Since there is no word Nekromant in english from what I know.

[Althaea]

Oops. I somehow forgot that the class is the Markgraf, and that of course you'd be talking about the units themselves.

The name is likely just because the game can get a bit trippy if you have several unit types named the same thing, and also to help distinguish them in a discussion. For the spelling itself, well, the Hoburghers are vaguely German and German has a lot of K:s in it. Not sure there's anything more to it than that.

[rusty_dragon]

Thanks.
I wish they'd returned Totem from COE2 instead.

[Faith over Riches]

My understanding was that 'Nekromant' was essentially an invented word to add some flavour to the Markgraf version of Necromancy. Illwinter have some strange naming conventions, for example calling 'pikemen' 'pikeneers' for no explainable reason. I like it.

[Althaea]

Pikeneers is perfectly valid, though? You can find similarities in how halberdiers aren't halberdmen and musketeers aren't musketmen. (Though "pikemen" is of course valid, unlike the examples I just gave.)

[Faith over Riches]

The language rules come across kind of arbitrary; halberd-halberdier, musket-musketeer, spear-spearman, pike-pikeman, crossbow-crossbowman, sword-swordsman, lance-lancer... but that doesn't make pikeneer valid.

[Althaea]

I could've sworn it was proper, and there are others who've used the "pikeneer" form, but as it turns out the CoE4 wiki is the top result if you google for "pikeneer." I've tried using a few different search engines and searching in private sessions to rule out tracking-related oddities, but it's still generally on the front page of the results.

So nevermind me, then. I guess it might be an especially common mistake for Swedes to make since "pikenerare" is Swedish for pikeman.

[Faith over Riches]

I wondered if pikeneer was just a misconstrued translation from the Swedish for pikeman or if it was just a way of flavouring the world. If your google search for a word returns anything related to CoE at the top of the results then you are indeed searching for a niche or very rare word ;)

[Entropino]

height

[corisai]

Originally posted by alguLoD:

So nevermind me, then. I guess it might be an especially common mistake for Swedes to make since "pikenerare" is Swedish for pikeman.

Sorry for necromancy :)

I can add some deep and conspiracy for your idea. "Pikeneers" pronounce will sound quite like russian word mean "pikemen". So ... yean there can be some dirty secrets around

[sarrowquand]

Nekromant might be a weaker class but there is nothing like ruling the world as a hobbit vampire.

[Marlin]

In Swedish, nekromant is a real word[svenska.se] (since about 200 years back). But, more to the point, it’s a real word in German too[www.dwds.de]. Basically the same as English necromancer or necromant[en.oxforddictionaries.com].

So nekromant for a Hoburg necromancer seems pretty natural, I think, given the German flavor of the CoE hobbits.

(The “pikeneer” in CoE might be a mistake, though. Whereas many other Europeans, not only Swedes but apparently Russians too, incorporated the Middle French term piquenaire wholesale into their languages, the English clearly – in this case, unlike with musketeer – ultimately used only the French name for the weapon itself, pique.)

[Althaea]

Given that the English much preferred the billhook over the pike or halberd, I'm tempted to say that it's an intentional malapropism adopted in a fit of pique.