Is this game Woke?

[Midnight Rider]

I always wanted to play this and want to buy the first one too, but if this have some DEI bs I want nothing from it. can anyone verify ?

[chakkman]

A bit. One character (which is even playable in The Death Of The Outsider) is a black, lesbian, oppressed woman with a disability. If that's woke enough for you. 😁

You also have the choice to play the character from Dishonored 1 (Corvo), or the new empress (Emily). Which could be considered woke (I mean, most sequels back in the days just had you play the character from the prequel). I also remember one or two readables with possible woke content.

You know, we live in silly times, where game developers think it's their responsibility to either send a message, or they think they have to send a message, so, you're really not safe anywhere from all the madness. Face it, and accept/ignore the bullsh** in most games and films, or stop gaming and watching movies. I really don't know what else to say. I also hate these pretentious political messages everywhere, but, that's sadly the world and the times we live.

All in all, I would say that the woke messages in this game are very few, and, it's a great gameplay experience anyway, so, I might even look past a few things. I love the universe and the gameplay, so, I might be biased, and not even notice some of the BS game developers notoriously think they have to put into the games these days.

[Outplayedx]

I really enjoyed Dishonored 2 and Death of the Outsider, and I probably watch a bit too much of Asmongold's content. Think that speaks volumes to the quality of all three titles in the franchise.

[Midnight Rider]

Thank you for your honest and detailed answers lads, might give it a try on discount

[Saturnine Spy]

I didn't get anything woke from it.... Anything can be woke if you look hard enough but I really don't think this is.... and I despise woke culture

[manowar]

Meh yes and no. The guy who made it Harvey Smith is woke as he has retconned some things in Dishonored 1. Dishonored 2 so far is a good game the only things that are kinda woke are the female guards who are all elite(which is a fair criticism but I think it's a minor criticism as it can be ignored as they don't outright tell you they are strong girlbosses) the other thing that you could argue to be woke but I'd argue is not. Is that you can play as a woman in 2 Emily the Empress. While Corvo is cooler and more well liked, Emily is not a bad character.

[Lar Dass]

you play as black guy whos a gay lesbian female, stay away from this junk

[ZweiZwei]

Dishonored 1 asks the following questions, "Is it better to kill someone that wronged you and be done with it, or better to expose them for their crimes and die a slow painful karmic death?" as well as "is it better to live among the dishonorable nobility that pretend to do the right thing, or better to deal with criminals that keep their word?"

Its hella woke and I love it for that.
Corvo is an immigrant who became the personal bodyguard of an empress because he was that good at fighting groups of people, as if he was super good at gang initiation fights. That's hella woke.
There's so many spoilers in the game, but it lets you save people's lives that would go out of their way to kill you, and by doing so, you slowly turn the people against the true oppressor.
Extremely woke.

[Arkainin]

No. Stop being weird.


The more in-depth answer:

It's only woke if you consider the option to play a female lead and the existence of a single LGBTQ character in DLC as being woke. Neither has any real effect on the story other than that you get a different perspective playing the female character.

The biggest woke thing that ya'll probably did not even notice is that the game is a pretty clear critique of unchecked capitalism and the surveillance state.

[chakkman]

Originally posted by ZweiZwei:

Dishonored 1 asks the following questions, "Is it better to kill someone that wronged you and be done with it, or better to expose them for their crimes and die a slow painful karmic death?" as well as "is it better to live among the dishonorable nobility that pretend to do the right thing, or better to deal with criminals that keep their word?"

Its hella woke and I love it for that.
Corvo is an immigrant who became the personal bodyguard of an empress because he was that good at fighting groups of people, as if he was super good at gang initiation fights. That's hella woke.
There's so many spoilers in the game, but it lets you save people's lives that would go out of their way to kill you, and by doing so, you slowly turn the people against the true oppressor.
Extremely woke.

I would say it's a big stretch to call these things woke.

You probably don't realize what the actual problem is people have with pushing woke ideologies onto people playing video games or watching films. It's not the things you mentioned, it's rather the things that don't make sense, neither from a lore nor from a story telling perspective.

E.g., Billy Lurk was a faceless character in Dishonored 1. Now, in Dishonored 2, suddenly, she's a black, lesbian, disabled, oppressed woman. Or, you were the protector of young Emily in Dishonored 1. In Dishonored 2, suddenly, she is as skilled as Corvo, who hasn't done anything else in his entire long life, and you're suppoed to protect your father.

See, that's the kind of nonsensical, political bullcrap that people are so fed up with now. See, they just take things, and twist them around 180°, for no apparent reason other than, yeah, being woke.

[ZweiZwei]

Originally posted by chakkman:

Originally posted by ZweiZwei:

Dishonored 1 asks the following questions, "Is it better to kill someone that wronged you and be done with it, or better to expose them for their crimes and die a slow painful karmic death?" as well as "is it better to live among the dishonorable nobility that pretend to do the right thing, or better to deal with criminals that keep their word?"

Its hella woke and I love it for that.
Corvo is an immigrant who became the personal bodyguard of an empress because he was that good at fighting groups of people, as if he was super good at gang initiation fights. That's hella woke.
There's so many spoilers in the game, but it lets you save people's lives that would go out of their way to kill you, and by doing so, you slowly turn the people against the true oppressor.
Extremely woke.

I would say it's a big stretch to call these things woke.

You probably don't realize what the actual problem is people have with pushing woke ideologies onto people playing video games or watching films. It's not the things you mentioned, it's rather the things that don't make sense, neither from a lore nor from a story telling perspective.

E.g., Billy Lurk was a faceless character in Dishonored 1. Now, in Dishonored 2, suddenly, she's a black, lesbian, disabled, oppressed woman. Or, you were the protector of young Emily in Dishonored 1. In Dishonored 2, suddenly, she is as skilled as Corvo, who hasn't done anything else in his entire long life, and you're suppoed to protect your father.

See, that's the kind of nonsensical, political bullcrap that people are so fed up with now. See, they just take things, and twist them around 180°, for no apparent reason other than, yeah, being woke.

Oh no, I hate the fact that Corvo trained Emily for 15 years offscreen. Girls like me shouldn't have an education. Its woke. Girls getting educated genuinely doesn't make sense.
I also hate the fact that Corvo was helping Emily navigate the treachery of nobility in between dishonored 1 and 2. I really hate the spinoff books. I really hate the novels they're so woke.

Billie Lurk not being just a mask and cloak is stupid too. I'm 100% with you on that.

[ZweiZwei]

Originally posted by Arkainin:

No. Stop being weird.


The more in-depth answer:

It's only woke if you consider the option to play a female lead and the existence of a single LGBTQ character in DLC as being woke. Neither has any real effect on the story other than that you get a different perspective playing the female character.

The biggest woke thing that ya'll probably did not even notice is that the game is a pretty clear critique of unchecked capitalism and the surveillance state.

Nah man, we love unchecked capitalism and the survelliance state. We kinda need it to beat china. Anyone who disagrees or believes that girls like me should be educated or should learn how to defend themselves like Emily does, is woke.

[ZweiZwei]

And in case you can't tell I'm genuinely a fan of the series. There's quite a few notes in the first game about the magic system, offbrand russia, store brand New World, where the rat plague comes from. People hating on others cause of ethnicity. Someone feeling bad for Corvo because they both are fighters from a different country and ethnicity from that place. Feels real. If you want storytelling in a game, this is worth a shot. And that's all Dishonored ONE baby

And what I'm saying about wokeness and girls not needing an education, I believe it as much as I believe me touching a gun is gonna make me instantly vaporize and go back in time 2 hours before that. That is to say, not at all.

[chakkman]

Originally posted by ZweiZwei:

Originally posted by chakkman:

I would say it's a big stretch to call these things woke.

You probably don't realize what the actual problem is people have with pushing woke ideologies onto people playing video games or watching films. It's not the things you mentioned, it's rather the things that don't make sense, neither from a lore nor from a story telling perspective.

E.g., Billy Lurk was a faceless character in Dishonored 1. Now, in Dishonored 2, suddenly, she's a black, lesbian, disabled, oppressed woman. Or, you were the protector of young Emily in Dishonored 1. In Dishonored 2, suddenly, she is as skilled as Corvo, who hasn't done anything else in his entire long life, and you're suppoed to protect your father.

See, that's the kind of nonsensical, political bullcrap that people are so fed up with now. See, they just take things, and twist them around 180°, for no apparent reason other than, yeah, being woke.

Oh no, I hate the fact that Corvo trained Emily for 15 years offscreen. Girls like me shouldn't have an education. Its woke. Girls getting educated genuinely doesn't make sense.
I also hate the fact that Corvo was helping Emily navigate the treachery of nobility in between dishonored 1 and 2. I really hate the spinoff books. I really hate the novels they're so woke.

Billie Lurk not being just a mask and cloak is stupid too. I'm 100% with you on that.

Lots of speculation, and putting things together there which don't make sense, but, suit yourself. 😉

[chakkman]

Originally posted by ZweiZwei:

Originally posted by Arkainin:

No. Stop being weird.


The more in-depth answer:

It's only woke if you consider the option to play a female lead and the existence of a single LGBTQ character in DLC as being woke. Neither has any real effect on the story other than that you get a different perspective playing the female character.

The biggest woke thing that ya'll probably did not even notice is that the game is a pretty clear critique of unchecked capitalism and the surveillance state.

Nah man, we love unchecked capitalism and the survelliance state. We kinda need it to beat china. Anyone who disagrees or believes that girls like me should be educated or should learn how to defend themselves like Emily does, is woke.

See, that's the thing, and you demonstrate it perfectly: We don't need political or socio-political stuff like that in entertainment, just because YOU or any other poor soul feels insulted, or neglected.

[ZweiZwei]

"Lots of speculation, and putting things together there which don't make sense, but, suit yourself. 😉"
U mad? I can prove it too.
Homie, its literally in the lore of the games.
Dishonored 1 and 2 you can find documents that detail Corvo's past. He's an immigrant. He could fight large groups of soldiers
in dishonored 1...
"Only 16, Corvo dazzled the people of Karnaca when he entered and won the annual Blade Verbena. The spectators, from all over Serkonos, were thrilled to see someone so young and striking, from a working class family, advance through duel after duel, eventually taking the prize. This unexpected outcome secured Corvo a junior officer ranking in the Grand Serkonan Guard."
https://dishonored.fandom.com/wiki/Corvo_Attano,_The_Royal_Protector_In_Our_Times,_Part_01?so=search

Daud's diary mentions him and Corvo being from the same country, and is part of the reason why he didn't kill Corvo. I can go ahead and record game footage if you don't believe me.

Emily does get a lot of training by Corvo.
Memories of Training is the tutorial of Dishonored 2, set some time between 1837 and 1852. Empress Emily Kaldwin is training her combat and stealth skills in secret with her father Corvo Attano by the Old Waterfront, adjacent to Drapers Ward, which is empty at night. https://dishonored.fandom.com/wiki/Memories_of_Training
She also has at least one adventure where she does attempt to take out a group of enemies and fails to do so on her own. https://dishonored.fandom.com/wiki/Dishonored:_The_Corroded_Man

If anything homie, you're the one neglected. But that changes now, I'm paying attention to y ou.