Compare to MoW: Assault Squad 2 how does it play?

[Pvt. i3lueHorneT [10th MD]]

For those familiar with both titles.

[TheOrangeBox]

Not a hardcore player but I would say GoHO has extra layers of management that MoW didn't have. Great visuals and details in units and vehicles, more arms, more realism, great maps with better immersion of the battlefields, and new addition of first person mode in gameplay. I found GoHO allows you to play more strategically than MoW,
GoHO also offers a dynamic PvE campaigns in which you built your own army and fight an ever- changing war across the collection of maps like your own war - in addition to the usual single player and skirmishes or PVP.

[Togo]

I wouldnt go back to mowas2 after playing Gates of hell. This one is clearly superior in every aspect.

[TheOrangeBox]

However, even if GoHO is a superior game, MoWAS2 is certainly a buy especially on sale for the War Chest Edition. Still a great game to have and play.

[Saxhorn]

How does it play? is an extremely broad question.

The game uses the same (but upgraded) engine so everything with be similar if not almost identical. There are some new features but overall it's the same with better graphics.

You'll see a lot of the same tanks and vehicles in both titles.

The major difference is in the inclusion of the dynamic campaign (Conquest), improved visuals (eye candy) and a far more historical accuracy on the single player grand campaign missions.

It's been a long time since I played any of the MoW series so there's probably some changes I've forgotten to mention but I'm sure others will mention any I've missed.

[Punished Miller]

The gameplay loop is the exact same. What few differences there are between the 2 games are unimportant.
The main reason to buy GoH is if you've already milked MoWAS2 dry (played the whole game, played most good mods) and want more. GoH offers a much better singleplayer campaign plus the (in my opinion way overrated) Dynamic Conquest mode.
But GoH has almost no singleplayer mods right now. There's like 3-4 workshop GOOD missions that ACTUALLY function and aren't broken.
The overwhelming majority of workshop content for this game are lazy copy-paste mods for Dynamic Conquest (everybody copies somebody else's mod, makes 1 change to it and reuploads it with a new name), boring editor maps, and very few actually decent singleplayer missions.

90% of GoH mod missions are either broken and not updated or they're just terrible. 5% are MoWAS2 mods ported into GoH and the last 5% are original missions that still work and are fun to play.
Also keep in mind that 99% of workshop missions for GoH will require you to download about 15GB+ of other mods in order to function, because apparently modders just can't even comprehend the possibility of just making a regular missions for vanilla GoH, no no no, everything needs to have valour and some crappy asset packs in it.
So be prepared to download ~20GB every time you want to try out 1 mission that may not even be any good.

[Name]

I felt like mow2as had realistic damage and health for units. Fuel consumption felt right. In GoH I rarely run out of fuel, enemy units require 2-5 shots to the chest or head with machine guns like the mg42 / dshk / .30 cal, tanks and arty ran out of ammo in reasonable rate - in GoH I don't often call in supply trucks unless I'm spamming MLRS.

PPSH is a monster in this game. you can lay down the hammer at medium range in prone and delete units quickly. Try this with the mg42 / mp40 / or really any axis smg / mg and you'll require more engagement time.

Graphically the game is amazing, but gameplay mechanics wise - it's lacking compared to mow2as. In mow2as, you could actually hide tank destroyers depending on their size - in bushes. You can't in this game, you can barely hide the goliath in a tank trench.

I enjoyed mow2as when I wasn't automatically kicked out of every lobby for being low rank - or forced to play on a team of low ranks vs 3000 hour players. Also the unit limit for how many units you can place on the map is atrocious.

If the developers could incorporate a realism mode in multiplayer matches that simulates robz mod, I'd be very happy. If you enjoy playing as the soviet union, you'll love this game. I combed through the patch log for the open beta, and am disappointed to find yet again - more nerfs for axis infantry weapons and artillery. The stg44 nerfs were uncalled for, 30cm rocket firing time is crap, and we can't untow / tow in direct control anymore.

[Leelareso]

Mow 2 its sadly more arcade, this game wanna be more like company of heroes... Its better to stick with old MOW or Gates of hell.
Edit. OH sry you talk about MOW assault squad 2. So yes is worth to buy. But i prefer Gates of hell.

[Spale]

lacks the felling of robz realism
game feels like its missing a soul

[Sol4rSky]

It's superior in all aspects, performance is so much better, maps are great. Assault Squad 2 was very arcadish by default and I would only play it with mods, especially online, ROBZ was my favorite.

As for here, with the upcoming update, everything is so much better from units, models, graphics, environment, gameplay and overall feel. I wouldn't rly touch AS2 anymore, maybe play ROBZ for nostalgia on it for old times sake but as it stands, Gates of Hell is king.

[A1_AlphaPrime]

Better than MoWAS 2 and Robz

[Michael33]

Gates of Hell is a game far superior to Men of War 2 in terms of immersion and graphics with a mod community that only grows with each passing day It's not a perfect game, it has its problems, but we see the effort put in by the developers to keep everything working I would buy Men of War 2 because I want to help the developers even because currently we only have gates of hell and men fo war assault squad 2 of this segment, this last one has only remained alive until today because of the mod community just like that of total war rome 2

[Bloodnok]

The modding community is extremely challenged in GOH since the "devs" are constantly updating the base game. Modders can't be expected to keep their work up-to-date just because the "devs" change things every 20 minutes.

Let's face it, the people behind GOH aren't really developers, they're just a bunch of MOWAS2 modders. The prime example of their limitations in the inability over the years to introduce UI scaling to facilitate 4k, Many, many other games have the capability but not GOH .... because the "devs" don't know how to do it.

[Sunbeam]

Originally posted by Bloodnok:

The modding community is extremely challenged in GOH since the "devs" are constantly updating the base game. Modders can't be expected to keep their work up-to-date just because the "devs" change things every 20 minutes.

Let's face it, the people behind GOH aren't really developers, they're just a bunch of MOWAS2 modders. The prime example of their limitations in the inability over the years to introduce UI scaling to facilitate 4k, Many, many other games have the capability but not GOH .... because the "devs" don't know how to do it.

It's not because not know how, but rather because how much changes in engine it takes as many elements of UI hard coded. Many, many games aren't using such old engine.
As resources limited developers make choices that benefit larger portion of playerbase.

[Ch53dVet]

If you're talking about the up coming release in 2024 MOW 2, then all you have to do is look at the size of the content between both games. MOW 2 is listed as 16 gigs of game-play, whereas, CTA:GOH:OSTFRONT and the 2 DLC's as of the last time I checked was around 51-52 gig's of content plus in 5 days it's about to get the newly anticipated DLC with an estimated download of 45 gigs of additional content.

So, I ask you, What's better?
All you can eat, un-peeled, Popcorn shrimp or Surf and Turf?
( 6 oz Filet Mignon & 1.5 lb Maine Lobsters)

[Togo]

Originally posted by Bloodnok:

The modding community is extremely challenged in GOH since the "devs" are constantly updating the base game. Modders can't be expected to keep their work up-to-date just because the "devs" change things every 20 minutes.

Let's face it, the people behind GOH aren't really developers, they're just a bunch of MOWAS2 modders. The prime example of their limitations in the inability over the years to introduce UI scaling to facilitate 4k, Many, many other games have the capability but not GOH .... because the "devs" don't know how to do it.

Bro nobody gives a ♥♥♥♥ about 4k, you are playing gates of hell ffs