Ai keeps spawning heavy tanks all the time

[Grumpy Englishman]

So as the title says.

I'm playing a single mission on hard as the Germans and the Russians keep bringing in heavy tanks KV 1s and even a Churchill tanks.

I barely have anything that can dent that the t34s and medium tanks are fine but as soon as I send 1 soldier forward to try to take the 4th point they spawn in....as you hear them driving up, sometime theyvhave up to 4 heavys .

Is it cos it on hard or what cos they seem to have unlimited heavy tanks .

It takes me forever to take one out as I don't have anything that can penetrate the armor.

The battlefield is already littered with heavy tanks too..

So is that normal? Would it be the same on medium.

[✠19GaMoR83✠]

You play skirmish vs AI on early War stage, right? Yes, it is normal. KV1 vs early stage German Tanks will win if you go one on one with them. An "easy" and cheap win against KV1 is flamethrower Inf but of course you need to get close and aim for the engine. Other than that, prioritise tracks on KV1 so he can't move and to open options for flanking. After that try to take out his main gun. If you have his tracks and main gun -> clear all Inf near him and take him out with satchels and again flamethrower.
If you want have fun don't play Germans ;) if you like to suffer and a challenge, take the Germans (even later stages once the Tanks are good to very good your inf will suffer from terrible unprecise guns MP40, STG 44 and MG34/42 are barely able to hit a barn in a field so don't go in later stages never one on one with infantry with the low damage they deal every hit count so the unprecise guns get them nearly always killed vs US or UdssR guns. Germans late ware infantry only use is to have a line of sight for your AT and tanks unfortunately, they will lose every inf on infantry fights (of course not Elite unite vs lowest Tier but I would say every same Tier and even one tier below them will take em out of fight) ... like I said if you want have a fun experience don’t play the German faction. US is (atm) a walk in the park and UdssR feels mostly fair at all stages for Germans to work you would need to turn down difficulty but that isn’t fun as well because the AI will not spawn nothing challenging anymore and it feels like playing as US.

[Grumpy Englishman]

Originally posted by ✠19GaMoR83✠:

You play skirmish vs AI on early War stage, right? Yes, it is normal. KV1 vs early stage German Tanks will win if you go one on one with them. An "easy" and cheap win against KV1 is flamethrower Inf but of course you need to get close and aim for the engine. Other than that, prioritise tracks on KV1 so he can't move and to open options for flanking. After that try to take out his main gun. If you have his tracks and main gun -> clear all Inf near him and take him out with satchels and again flamethrower.
If you want have fun don't play Germans ;) if you like to suffer and a challenge, take the Germans (even later stages once the Tanks are good to very good your inf will suffer from terrible unprecise guns MP40, STG 44 and MG34/42 are barely able to hit a barn in a field so don't go in later stages never one on one with infantry with the low damage they deal every hit count so the unprecise guns get them nearly always killed vs US or UdssR guns. Germans late ware infantry only use is to have a line of sight for your AT and tanks unfortunately, they will lose every inf on infantry fights (of course not Elite unite vs lowest Tier but I would say every same Tier and even one tier below them will take em out of fight) ... like I said if you want have a fun experience don’t play the German faction. US is (atm) a walk in the park and UdssR feels mostly fair at all stages for Germans to work you would need to turn down difficulty but that isn’t fun as well because the AI will not spawn nothing challenging anymore and it feels like playing as US.

Makes sense but to spawn 3 to 5 heavy s is a joke and then spawns another 3to 5 a couple minutes later .

Like I said it's easy to track them but take some much time just to knock one out ....have no units to do so....

But just seems silly supsed to be more of a realistic game but pretty sure the reds would of committed so many heavy tanks to one batte.

[Grumpy Englishman]

Originally posted by ✠19GaMoR83✠:

You play skirmish vs AI on early War stage, right? Yes, it is normal. KV1 vs early stage German Tanks will win if you go one on one with them. An "easy" and cheap win against KV1 is flamethrower Inf but of course you need to get close and aim for the engine. Other than that, prioritise tracks on KV1 so he can't move and to open options for flanking. After that try to take out his main gun. If you have his tracks and main gun -> clear all Inf near him and take him out with satchels and again flamethrower.
If you want have fun don't play Germans ;) if you like to suffer and a challenge, take the Germans (even later stages once the Tanks are good to very good your inf will suffer from terrible unprecise guns MP40, STG 44 and MG34/42 are barely able to hit a barn in a field so don't go in later stages never one on one with infantry with the low damage they deal every hit count so the unprecise guns get them nearly always killed vs US or UdssR guns. Germans late ware infantry only use is to have a line of sight for your AT and tanks unfortunately, they will lose every inf on infantry fights (of course not Elite unite vs lowest Tier but I would say every same Tier and even one tier below them will take em out of fight) ... like I said if you want have a fun experience don’t play the German faction. US is (atm) a walk in the park and UdssR feels mostly fair at all stages for Germans to work you would need to turn down difficulty but that isn’t fun as well because the AI will not spawn nothing challenging anymore and it feels like playing as US.

It s literally minutes after spawning they spawn again, the problem is that they spawn in every few minutes 3 or 4 of them

[✠19GaMoR83✠]

Originally posted by Grumpy Englishman:

It s literally minutes after spawning they spawn again, the problem is that they spawn in every few minutes 3 or 4 of them

What are your settings? Because if you have early war the AI have only limeted KV1s to spawn. Do you play 1 vs like 4 or 5 AI? Do you play mid or late War?

[Grumpy Englishman]

Originally posted by ✠19GaMoR83✠:

Originally posted by Grumpy Englishman:

It s literally minutes after spawning they spawn again, the problem is that they spawn in every few minutes 3 or 4 of them

What are your settings? Because if you have early war the AI have only limeted KV1s to spawn. Do you play 1 vs like 4 or 5 AI? Do you play mid or late War?

No it's one of the single missions , hard is not to difficult but when the AI spawn like 6 heavly tanks , kv1s and Churchill tanks with in a few minutes and keeps spawning them in every couple of minutes,its just wtf 😒.


Like I said I don't really have much to fight them with just seems overkill could understand if it was medium t34 tanks but always kv1s and Churchills ......
Maybe that's how it is on hard

Have not even got the tank point yet so can't call in any tigers or anything.

[Don Banini]

heavy arty from accross the map easily counters heavy tanks

[✠19GaMoR83✠]

For SP Missions: they all can be done. If you strugle restart with the so far collected knowledge and use the [Backspace] to slow time this will make missions on hard difficultys much more better to win.

[Ch53dVet]

If you are playing one of the German Skirmish Maps, which one is it, also, what Doctrine did you choose before starting the game? All Around, Defensive, Offensive, Irregular?
I don't know what equipment you have available to counter those tanks. Different levels of play like Hard you'll be facing better quality troops and equipment, In Hard Mode you won't be facing Conscripts, Convict troops, BT- 7 tanks etc...etc...

[kampfer91]

Hmm definitely Kharkov from what he describe .

If you about to take your 4th point , i suggest going for the Special Strike point as it will give you Tiger tank .

By this time the German start to use long 7.5 , it should go straight through KV-1 driver view port and Churchill turret .

[Grumpy Englishman]

Originally posted by Don Banini:

heavy arty from accross the map easily counters heavy tanks

I don't have it at my arsenal

[Grumpy Englishman]

Originally posted by kampfer91:

Hmm definitely Kharkov from what he describe .

If you about to take your 4th point , i suggest going for the Special Strike point as it will give you Tiger tank .

By this time the German start to use long 7.5 , it should go straight through KV-1 driver view port and Churchill turret .

Was thinking that but geezs every couple of minutes another 2 or 4 heavys spawn in.

The 7.5 is on the tank destroyer is it not can't remember the name of it it does not really have armour and an open cab?

[Grumpy Englishman]

Originally posted by ✠19GaMoR83✠:

For SP Missions: they all can be done. If you strugle restart with the so far collected knowledge and use the [Backspace] to slow time this will make missions on hard difficultys much more better to win.

Noted

[Grumpy Englishman]

Originally posted by Ch53dVet:

If you are playing one of the German Skirmish Maps, which one is it, also, what Doctrine did you choose before starting the game? All Around, Defensive, Offensive, Irregular?
I don't know what equipment you have available to counter those tanks. Different levels of play like Hard you'll be facing better quality troops and equipment, In Hard Mode you won't be facing Conscripts, Convict troops, BT- 7 tanks etc...etc...

Single player mission didn't choose a doctrine

[Ch53dVet]

Originally posted by Grumpy Englishman:

Single player mission didn't choose a doctrine

I'm confused, what's the name of the Single Player Mission? If you have a game save it'll have the Mission Name.

[blagmire]

Outside of a few meta MP picks, Germany's generally very underpowered right now.