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Are there any plans on updating Infantrie squads such as Germany's to include more modern Weaponry as STG44 or even 1 - 2 designated AT Soldiers like we got with the US forces
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Herr Flick  [developer] Dec 4, 2023 @ 6:11am 
For those to be added, we need to add the late war period to conquest. So yes, there are plans; however we don't have a date set for that at the moment.
✠19GaMoR83✠ Dec 4, 2023 @ 6:27am 
Nein, nein, nein. Like in all other Games (FPS, RTS, 4x etc.) You are not allowed to have any fun if you play zeh Germans and they have to scale and balance all into oblivion. Otherwise, the "wrong" side could win.

Done trying to get a good representation. Overcome, embrace and win none the less with all odds stacked against you. Still thinking off the good times back in H&G when they had all equipment based on data sheets and the global war 98% Axis were winning in the first or two months within some days. Then they "balanced" it because it was too unfair and the US players were complaining too much. After the balance not one war on the global map could be won for Axis side. Still with all the nerfed equipment it took Allies weeks to win the global wars. And they never changed it in fav of Germans (to get something close to 50:50) over the years. Suddenly balance was not an issue anymore.

I get it that for MP stuff should be balanced but yeah leave suff close to original when we talk about SP. Let things be Imba if they where Imba and have Ppl fun no matter what side they choose to play.
Urk_da_WAAAGH! Dec 4, 2023 @ 6:59am 
Originally posted by ✠19GaMoR83✠:
Nein, nein, nein. Like in all other Games (FPS, RTS, 4x etc.) You are not allowed to have any fun if you play zeh Germans and they have to scale and balance all into oblivion. Otherwise, the "wrong" side could win.

Done trying to get a good representation. Overcome, embrace and win none the less with all odds stacked against you. Still thinking off the good times back in H&G when they had all equipment based on data sheets and the global war 98% Axis were winning in the first or two months within some days. Then they "balanced" it because it was too unfair and the US players were complaining too much. After the balance not one war on the global map could be won for Axis side. Still with all the nerfed equipment it took Allies weeks to win the global wars. And they never changed it in fav of Germans (to get something close to 50:50) over the years. Suddenly balance was not an issue anymore.

I get it that for MP stuff should be balanced but yeah leave suff close to original when we talk about SP. Let things be Imba if they where Imba and have Ppl fun no matter what side they choose to play.

Least deranged wehraboo

Back to your "point" the Germans get plenty unicorns for their use, the big cats are good examples, they are legendary and only that, their battlefield presence was null, the soviets had 3 ISU-152 to each Tiger 1 + Tiger 2, the Americans had 37 Shermans for each Tiger 1, damn, even Panzer 4 wasn't that numerous compared to the Panzer 3 and the SPGs.

So get yourself togheter and stop this nonsensical "germans can't have fun" s*it
Originally posted by ✠19GaMoR83✠:
Nein, nein, nein. Like in all other Games (FPS, RTS, 4x etc.) You are not allowed to have any fun if you play zeh Germans and they have to scale and balance all into oblivion. Otherwise, the "wrong" side could win.

Done trying to get a good representation. Overcome, embrace and win none the less with all odds stacked against you. Still thinking off the good times back in H&G when they had all equipment based on data sheets and the global war 98% Axis were winning in the first or two months within some days. Then they "balanced" it because it was too unfair and the US players were complaining too much. After the balance not one war on the global map could be won for Axis side. Still with all the nerfed equipment it took Allies weeks to win the global wars. And they never changed it in fav of Germans (to get something close to 50:50) over the years. Suddenly balance was not an issue anymore.

I get it that for MP stuff should be balanced but yeah leave suff close to original when we talk about SP. Let things be Imba if they where Imba and have Ppl fun no matter what side they choose to play.

This Steam community seems to be fun :)
I bought the game yesterday.
Emperor_Hood Dec 4, 2023 @ 7:34am 
Originally posted by Herr Flick:
For those to be added, we need to add the late war period to conquest. So yes, there are plans; however we don't have a date set for that at the moment.

Nice ^^
Cant wait for it
this DLC is amazing so please more like that
maybe next with UK ;)
✠19GaMoR83✠ Dec 4, 2023 @ 9:16am 
Originally posted by Urk_da_WAAAGH!:
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Least deranged wehraboo

Back to your "point" the Germans get plenty unicorns for their use, the big cats are good examples, they are legendary and only that, their battlefield presence was null, the soviets had 3 ISU-152 to each Tiger 1 + Tiger 2, the Americans had 37 Shermans for each Tiger 1, damn, even Panzer 4 wasn't that numerous compared to the Panzer 3 and the SPGs.

So get yourself togheter and stop this nonsensical "germans can't have fun" s*it
I like if they need a self-created words (wehraboo) for things they don't like to sound legit or give their following arguments some legitimacy where is none... Now you said that Germany was in the numerical disadvantage. Yes, we probably all knew where are the news? And what has this to do with my point that in video games all the German equipment gets nerfed for balance reasons... Jesus buuuuht you used the word wehraboo so you must be smart and right, right? Herr gib mir Kraft...
Last edited by ✠19GaMoR83✠; Dec 4, 2023 @ 9:18am
SandmanEnters Dec 4, 2023 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by Herr Flick:
For those to be added, we need to add the late war period to conquest. So yes, there are plans; however we don't have a date set for that at the moment.
You are seeing this question/complaint more now that the US is in.

The Garand + built in AT makes the other faction squads feel extremely outdated.
morganc425 Dec 4, 2023 @ 10:08am 
Here's a fun mod you might like. A lot more stg 44 and other later german small arms in squads for conquest
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3049115882
Last edited by morganc425; Dec 4, 2023 @ 10:08am
SandmanEnters Dec 4, 2023 @ 10:54am 
Originally posted by morganc425:
Here's a fun mod you might like. A lot more stg 44 and other later german small arms in squads for conquest
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3049115882
Dope, will definitely check it out.
Urk_da_WAAAGH! Dec 4, 2023 @ 11:57am 
Originally posted by ✠19GaMoR83✠:
Originally posted by Urk_da_WAAAGH!:
[...]
Least deranged wehraboo

Back to your "point" the Germans get plenty unicorns for their use, the big cats are good examples, they are legendary and only that, their battlefield presence was null, the soviets had 3 ISU-152 to each Tiger 1 + Tiger 2, the Americans had 37 Shermans for each Tiger 1, damn, even Panzer 4 wasn't that numerous compared to the Panzer 3 and the SPGs.

So get yourself togheter and stop this nonsensical "germans can't have fun" s*it
I like if they need a self-created words (wehraboo) for things they don't like to sound legit or give their following arguments some legitimacy where is none... Now you said that Germany was in the numerical disadvantage. Yes, we probably all knew where are the news? And what has this to do with my point that in video games all the German equipment gets nerfed for balance reasons... Jesus buuuuht you used the word wehraboo so you must be smart and right, right? Herr gib mir Kraft...

Germany: has most of its unicorn equipments represented in game without their several mechanical or cost downsides.

Wehraboo: wHy ThEy NeRf GeRmAnY
✠19GaMoR83✠ Dec 4, 2023 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by Urk_da_WAAAGH!:
Originally posted by ✠19GaMoR83✠:
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Germany: has most of its unicorn equipments represented in game without their several mechanical or cost downsides.

Wehraboo: wHy ThEy NeRf GeRmAnY
Annnnd? Like every other Nation in the Game as well. No Mechanical issues or quality is considered for all Nations. And no Nation in GoH is bound to real number of units deployed, you can bring as many Super Pershing as you like to the field.

Again, bring please some arguments to the table if you are interested in a discussion or go watch some of Lazer Pig's Videos on YT too give yourself some comfort. Considering your arguments, you one of his very, very smart followers.
Last edited by ✠19GaMoR83✠; Dec 4, 2023 @ 12:24pm
Urk_da_WAAAGH! Dec 4, 2023 @ 12:33pm 
Originally posted by ✠19GaMoR83✠:
Originally posted by Urk_da_WAAAGH!:

Germany: has most of its unicorn equipments represented in game without their several mechanical or cost downsides.

Wehraboo: wHy ThEy NeRf GeRmAnY
Annnnd? Like every other Nation in the Game as well. No Mechanical issues or quality is considered for all Nations. And no Nation in GoH is bound to real number of units deployed, you can bring as many Super Pershing as you like to the field.

Again, bring please some arguments to the table if you are interested in a discussion or go watch some of Lazer Pig's Videos on YT too give yourself some comfort. Considering your arguments, you one of his very, very smart followers.

LOL arguments against anti German bias in the game?

My argument is: I wish there was anti German bias in the game LMAO.

Who the ♥♥♥♥ is lazerpig btw?
✠19GaMoR83✠ Dec 4, 2023 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by Urk_da_WAAAGH!:
Who the ♥♥♥♥ is lazerpig btw?
Nice try

Originally posted by Urk_da_WAAAGH!:
My argument is: I wish there was anti German bias in the game LMAO.
Okay no bias -> why you fight with early period German Infantry against US Infantry? Why is the MP 40 so badly inaccurate. Why is the MG43 implemented the way it is? Once again i get it for Multiplayer i don't get it for SP. Will it hurt the feelings of the AI?

Addendum: here is a discussion about the M1 is OP and the argument for it, is -> it was a good rifle. And yeah, i f*ing agree it was a good rifle so let it be a good rifle but this should be the way to go for all Nations at least in SP.
Last edited by ✠19GaMoR83✠; Dec 4, 2023 @ 12:44pm
Turtle-Gal Dec 4, 2023 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by ✠19GaMoR83✠:
Originally posted by Urk_da_WAAAGH!:
Who the ♥♥♥♥ is lazerpig btw?
Nice try

Originally posted by Urk_da_WAAAGH!:
My argument is: I wish there was anti German bias in the game LMAO.
Okay no bias -> why you fight with early period German Infantry against US Infantry? Why is the MP 40 so badly inaccurate. Why is the MG43 implemented the way it is? Once again i get it for Multiplayer i don't get it for SP. Will it hurt the feelings of the AI?

Addendum: here is a discussion about the M1 is OP and the argument for it, is -> it was a good rifle. And yeah, i f*ing agree it was a good rifle so let it be a good rifle but this should be the way to go for all Nations at least in SP.

The MG42 is implemented the way it is because changes to item stats apply game-wide.
Urk_da_WAAAGH! Dec 4, 2023 @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by ✠19GaMoR83✠:
Originally posted by Urk_da_WAAAGH!:
Who the ♥♥♥♥ is lazerpig btw?
Nice try

Originally posted by Urk_da_WAAAGH!:
My argument is: I wish there was anti German bias in the game LMAO.
Okay no bias -> why you fight with early period German Infantry against US Infantry? Why is the MP 40 so badly inaccurate. Why is the MG43 implemented the way it is? Once again i get it for Multiplayer i don't get it for SP. Will it hurt the feelings of the AI?

Addendum: here is a discussion about the M1 is OP and the argument for it, is -> it was a good rifle. And yeah, i f*ing agree it was a good rifle so let it be a good rifle but this should be the way to go for all Nations at least in SP.

So where is the anti German bias? Soviets don't have late war infantry too, should I point that the prevalence of SMGs and semi autos was way bigger on the Red Army and it also doesn't have it?

The squads are also quite historically authentic, the US had its infantry squads equiped with garands while the Germans and soviets still relied on Mosins and K98 for the majority of their forces.

MP40 don't appear worse than the stick PPSh btw, I see nothing different between factions there, and what is wrong with the german MG42? Is good enough and does it's job alright, I don't see it being unbalanced in any way.

The devs already said they are going to tweak Conquest to add late game infantry in the future, until there all factions have their approx. basic infantry already implemented in a very authentic way and I swear it isn't infantry with garands that are going to lose anyone a match, I have failed myself when my basic infantry needs to shoot at the enemy during my games, artillery, mortars, bombs, tanks and snipers do all the heavy lifting and my infantry just basically capture the cleaned objective, I'm not going to cry over they not having SVT, PPSh, STG or Gewehr in big numbers
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