M1 Garand

[SS Wiking]

It is just me or the M1 Garand is a little to much OP?
It is instakilling almost everything that show up
don't even a stg44 at close range do that kind of damage

[Lunar_Daemon]

What else could the developers come up with so that the US Army does not look squalid compared to others?

[DEREK]

“In my opinion, the M-1 Rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised.” some guy

[Goatmanpig]

It really does trivialize things, if anything for balance purposes it needs to be less accurate or tie the fire to unit quality if possible. It feels like an overhead view of Hell Let Loose with how powerful the Garand is in close quarters beating SMG infantry usually (it used to be the best CQC gun in Hell Let Loose).

[Raubritter]

Originally posted by M4A375(W):

I have a M1 Garand in my gun safe. They have accurately represented how the weapon fires. I can take my time and reach out to a target further away - or I can accurately take multiple rapid fire shots at close range.

As far as damage goes, spend some time in the unit library in the game. All rifles do the same amount of damage at each of the ranges. What makes the Garand so powerful is not the damage per shot, but that its a semi automatic rifle - the Germans and Soviets have semi auto rifles too, just not to the scale that the US does.

Devs, leave the Garand exactly how it is. That is how the Garand is in real life - I have put 100's of rounds through that rifle in reality, and you have presented it well.

Would you say it sounds realistic? It sounds great in-game but I wonder if it's accurate.

[Hagemann]

The garand was OP in real life too.

[Jimopl]

IMO the M1 is fine. Yes it makes an average US infantryman better than say a German one with a K98 (G43 changes that.) However the strength of German squads are the MG section. Just like real life the BAR is nothing compared to the MG34 and MG42.

You can use the new suppression feature with the MG and use it as a base of fire to move your rifle section up. It's more micro of course, but also more realistic.

[Brim]

I’m sure every German in 1944 had the same complaint.

[LifeLyne]

whats the point of a realistic game if its balanced.. you need to ask your self what kind of game do you want to play. a Realistic or sci-fi .... pretty sure the developers claim its a realistic approach. a more balanced approach would look a little like this, Flying motorcycle with a cannon on it........ go play foxhole where they go more towards a balanced then a realistic approach

[J7ZE]

Nah Garand is just fine as it is, Kar98 is equally powerfull, and together with the 1 hit kill mod, makes it even more enjoyable. The only thing i wish to se, is a proper Nblock Clip reload animation.

[rat]

Originally posted by LifeLyne:

whats the point of a realistic game if its balanced.. you need to ask your self what kind of game do you want to play. a Realistic or sci-fi .... pretty sure the developers claim its a realistic approach. a more balanced approach would look a little like this, Flying motorcycle with a cannon on it........ go play foxhole where they go more towards a balanced then a realistic approach

Play CoH for balance. I play CoH for a smooth multiplayer experience and arcade gameplay, let's not turn goh into an arcade game for no reason. Agreed.

[A1_AlphaPrime]

I love all of these bozos who don't play multiplayer and who want to balance a videogame according to weapon handbooks

[Raubritter]

Originally posted by M4A375(W):

Originally posted by Mark Felton Productions:

Would you say it sounds realistic? It sounds great in-game but I wonder if it's accurate.

If you fire the Garand without ears on, there's not a lot you hear afterwards! It sounds good - the Garand has a 'pop' to it depending on how far away you are from the person shooting. The Garand 'ping' is especially spot on.

The sounds in this game, actually, are some of the best in any game I have ever played. I know we have people from all over the world posting in here, and depending on where you live firearm ownership can mean different things. I have fired close to all the weapons in this game myself, and how they are presented at this scale (this isnt a FPS, its a RTS hybrid) is spot on.

Nice, I wish I lived in a country where owning one of these is possible.

Originally posted by ThyMother:

I love all of these bozos

Zoomer please.

[Urk_da_WAAAGH!]

Originally posted by M4A375(W):

Originally posted by Mark Felton Productions:

Would you say it sounds realistic? It sounds great in-game but I wonder if it's accurate.

If you fire the Garand without ears on, there's not a lot you hear afterwards! It sounds good - the Garand has a 'pop' to it depending on how far away you are from the person shooting. The Garand 'ping' is especially spot on.

The sounds in this game, actually, are some of the best in any game I have ever played. I know we have people from all over the world posting in here, and depending on where you live firearm ownership can mean different things. I have fired close to all the weapons in this game myself, and how they are presented at this scale (this isnt a FPS, its a RTS hybrid) is spot on.

I don't find the ping very realistic, is way too loud, you can hear it even under heavy fire what is a gross exaggeration of the real sound.

BUT, it does have the cool factor on its side so it's okay.

[kampfer91]

M1 garand the one of the few good thing US have , the rest is crap .

[rat]

Originally posted by kampfer91:

M1 garand the one of the few good thing US have , the rest is crap .

.50 Cal is gud