The entry fee for this is brutal

[razor]

So to play this MOD you need to buy the original game which is no longer supported and then this MOD for the grand total of $44 that seems to not support 4k and crashes fairly often based on the discussions here. I was deciding between this and COH 3 thoughts?

[-OrLoK- Слава Україн]

sounds to me like you've already made your mind up.

in this case I'd say go for CoH as they're a bigger team with a larger budget and can keep costs down and tackle bugs/issues faster that these devs.

if those things are important to you then steer clear of GoH.

For all its issues, and there are many, GoH suits *my* particular playstyle and I'm happy to wait for fixes and improvements but not everyone is.

You may even want to hold off on both and wait for the upcoming Men of War or grab Assault Squad 2.

me, I'll stick with this as, for me, it ticks most of my preferred boxes but no one can say whether its "worth it" for you.

There's no clear cut "this is best" as tastes vary.

[⇓S'lakk⇓]

If the price is a bit much, wait for the next sale as you can get GOH and it's expansions for fairly cheap! COH3 and GOH are two different beasts- both with their specific audience and level of realism. GOH is the closest you'll get to a realistic WW2 strategy game that doesn't go into the depth of Steel Division; COH3 is much more laid back and arcade-like, it doesn't feature any inventory systems, direct control, editor, or camera features seen in GOH- it's biggest pro is the conquest gamemode which is a bit more in depth than GOH's conquest (although It still has it's issues)

In the end, it's all up to you! I personally enjoy GOH for it's map/mission maker, and detailed unit control!

[Old School Internet Warlord]

Depth of Steel Division? Huh?

[Thahat]

i tried this, i tried coh 3. this EASILLY blows coh 3 out of the water...BUT caveat to that, this game has a bit of a steeper learing curve than coh since you just have flat out a lot more options. so getting used to the controlls (make controllgroups with shift +number, hold C to be able to pick up fallen weapons, hold V to be able to loot from bodies, hold X to inspect other stuff, the buttons for crouch/stand/lay down/direct controll/type of direct controll etc etc etc etc... but once you get the hang of it this game has no equal, rts wise.

[Uwo]

since you already call the game as MOD what do you want here? go to CoH3 that's so much better and doesn't use anything from its old parts? No plan but always the same stupid stuff after chattering. and always these comparisons between 2 different games. In the pictures and in the videos you can see exactly which game makes something and which is just a stupid successor. uh and ps. CoH3 is of course bug free and gives you everything you want for only 60 bucks. Tanks have blue or red markings oh how cool that's much better and more authentic, I can also control each soldier individually there and zoom out the camera very far YAAAA CoH3 is the very best and greatest of all games. yes because this little mod can not keep up.

[razor]

Appreciate the responses. I believe the next Steam sale is next week so hopefully this is on sale...

[Flan]

The only reason you have to buy the other game for this game (they are separate games, just same engine/series) is the owner of original game requires it as a condition of using the engine. They don't license the engine I guess.

[love2shpongleIRL]

As an OG COH fan I have to say buy this. Gates of Hell is superior in every way if you're looking for realism and variety. This game you can apply real world strategy and maneuver. COH 3 in it's current state is ww2 age of empires. Nothing wrong with it, but after really delving into GOH it is hard to step backward into the over simplistic. I regret buying COH 3, I thought the Total War style grand map would be more satisfying than it is, really it's just a scripted GUI for mission selection.

[razor]

Originally posted by love2shpongleIRL:

As an OG COH fan I have to say buy this. Gates of Hell is superior in every way if you're looking for realism and variety. This game you can apply real world strategy and maneuver. COH 3 in it's current state is ww2 age of empires. Nothing wrong with it, but after really delving into GOH it is hard to step backward into the over simplistic. I regret buying COH 3, I thought the Total War style grand map would be more satisfying than it is, really it's just a scripted GUI for mission selection.

After like 15 youtube videos and some other sites they all seem to agree with you. I hope this is on sale next week. If not just get it one piece at a time lol

[razor]

Originally posted by Flannelette:

The only reason you have to buy the other game for this game (they are separate games, just same engine/series) is the owner of original game requires it as a condition of using the engine. They don't license the engine I guess.

Ah I understand it is weird they wouldn't license it but I guess you get 2 games when its all said and done

[Delta_02_Cat]

As others have said, I can only recommend this game if you want a WW2 game with some actual depth to. Wait for a sale if the price is too much for you and you will have lots of fun with GoH. The last time it was on sale during the winter sale the game was sold at a discount of -62% for only $19.
The next free content update is gonna be released this Spring which will add more content, a sound overhaul, upgraded soldier models/textures and more.

Also worth mentioning is that there are a lot of mods that add missions, maps and factions.
Adding the USA, Great Britain, France, Italy, Japan, Poland and even more if you want.

There is also a really good Cold War mod that gets constant updates.

[Saxhorn]

Call to Arms is till supported and more content is "coming" but the time frame might mean none of us are still alive to play it. Species evolve faster than this game does.

$44 dollars is about half the price of other big name games and personally I think GoH is far "better" than any of them.

Steam says I've played the game for over 3700 hours and have rarely seen it crash.

The odd crash in multiplayer when something weird happens like another player goes into first person to drive the Goliath around and does something that makes the game go toes up. Otherwise I've had few issues.
I did have the game crashing but that was a Windows 10/Direct X issue not a game bug. I had to completely reinstall Windows (on a brand new blank HDD) to fix it. Since then it's been very stable and reliable.

If you want something complex and that you need to use brain power rather than muscle reflex to win at then this is the game. The learning curve is steep (but it's not as hard as Eve Online) because the game is reasonably realistic in terms of the actual weapons and damage models used.
Yes soldiers still have "HP" and some soldiers have more "HP" than others and honestly that can be a bit meh but overall it's the best I've seen. (WoT is also pretty good but honestly 2 seconds to repair a broken track? I'm sure the Chieftain shakes his head and mumbles about the real requirements of track tensioning at that one.)

If you have a reasonable understanding of infantry tactics and the weapons used in WW2 then you'll enjoy the game.

I haven't played Company Heroes since the original. I think Epic gave me the second version for free but I've never bothered to install it.

The original COH used a very simplistic damage model. A unit had HP and you just chipped away at it until it popped. With some armour thrown on vehicles for a bit of "realism".

You couldn't control individual soldiers. You couldn't really customise the weapons each soldier had. Some units could be upgraded - like the BAR added to an infantry section but the game was rather "simplistic".

There was no direct control. It was simply point and click.

It was certainly more "arcade" than "planning and tactics" but some people just want a game that plays "fast".

I regularly spend 2 or 3 hours on a single mission or battle. That's not something most players would enjoy.

[razor]

Thanks for the info Sax. I'm looking to use brain power and slower is better lol...I also got the free CoH 2 from epic and have been playing that. I used the command console to slow the game from default 10 to 4 which makes it much better imo along with using Grid Keys. I fairly new to ww2 rts games and thought CoH was like the king of them. I see that is not the case. Just fyi right now you can get CoH Franshise set for $30. Assault Squad 2 everything for $8. However atm this is $44.....so hope the Steam Sale on Thur lowers this and its an instant purchase

[Paddy]

While we are talking about COH. I played some COH 3 yesterday after long stints with GOH and all I can say is that I don't know if I can ever really go back to COH 3. In the Dynamic campaign which by the way isn't really Dynamic at all I was playing a Skirmish. One feature I did like is that random events can happen in Skirmish mode like enemy armour moving through the map which you can destroy for more points. Anyway I got a bazooka squad and I literally just ran up to the front of the enemy and attacked the armored column. My bazooka squad stood there within meters and took out about 3 tanks while only losing a few soldierd themselves in a hail of gunfire. I remember thinking "yep, that's enough for me" and then straight back to GOH with the battlefield sound mod, graphics mod, valour etc.

[-OrLoK- Слава Україн]

I too would like mini random events to spice up all maps/ modes.

much like the old AS2 maps which had a randomly placed broken tank as a sub quest.

these "events" wouldn't have to be high end kit rather little vignettes that add unexpected variety.