Death in Arena- r.i.p HC chars?!

[.:Jj:.]

What the hell.
I died at the end of one round in Arena and my hardcore character is dead in story mode? What the hell is the point of all that?
I hope there is a way to hack save files to make him playable again, I'm not going to star another HC char now. I saw one topic where players said death in Arena is safe for HC characters.

Is this a bug or just a very, very stupid idea?



I can't see any editor for this. You've got to be kidding me.
And I can't see an option to bring my character into normal mode. This must be a joke.

[.:Jj:.]

bump

[datguy13]

Hardcore is hardcore. You run the risk of dying anywhere and receive better chances for loot because of it, but no matter where you die, that's it. :(

Whoever told you that you were safe in Arena from perma-death was very wrong. Sorry. :(

[Darkness]

Originally posted by datguy13:

Whoever told you that you were safe in Arena from perma-death was very wrong. Sorry. :(

Lol, but arena ends when you die. You're supposed to die, makes no sense losing a hardcore character to it.

It's like losing a hardcore character if you go on a PvP mode, would be stupid as well.


Btw, no need to bump a one-hour thread I guess.

[.:Jj:.]

I've searched save data locations and it seems game removed char save file already. This is ridiculous. Haven't finished single playthrough and I already don't want to play anymore. I've spent so much time finding all hidden content in each location so far...

Then there's this mode when you fight until you die. Whoops! HC char? To bad, screw you.
It's not their first title. It blows my mind it works that way....


I've sent an email to their support. If there is no solution to this I'm taking a long break- at least game will be patched when I decide to go back. And there's new build of Grim Dawn released today.

[Darkness]

Originally posted by .:Jj:.:

It's not their first title. It blows my mind it works that way....

Arena is something new, the earlier titles didn't have it.

But yes, NeoCore seems to forget to check a few things here and there...

Even though as frustrating as that can be, I'd suggest a few less rage and more patience.


I'd warn that the game is in no shape for hardcore characters, and you'd end up being one-shotted anyday prior to finishing the campaign, so no need to complain like that.

I actually think hardcore is just suited for people who don't really care about their character, to prevent this kind of thing.

[.:Jj:.]

Yeah I guess it was a mistake to play HC just after release. So much essence and great items lost. I'd say bug that makes players loose their characters should be fixed day one or at least in first patch.
Game is too good to hate it, but man- so many hours wasted for nothing.

[FraggerDaddy]

Originally posted by datguy13:

Hardcore is hardcore. You run the risk of dying anywhere and receive better chances for loot because of it, but no matter where you die, that's it. :(

Whoever told you that you were safe in Arena from perma-death was very wrong. Sorry. :(

But thats really bad design, you could loose your Char from a simple misclick, as you just have to accidentally press enter and that was it, you cant exit without dying so you are screwed, that cant be right.

[Darkness]

Originally posted by .:Jj:.:

Game is too good to hate it, but man- so many hours wasted for nothing.

I feel you. Must be really upseting, but just chill, as I said, it was inevitable. There're quite a few AoE damages with weird scaling that can one-shot even a Protector playing on casual. If you look here you'll see a few threads about people losing their HC.

Anyway, I also agree this thing you reported must be a bug, so let's hope they catch and fix it. This way, your character's death wouldn't be meaningless!


Besides, I'd suggest creating a new character (softcore), and playing on Casual, at least until you reach that point where you stopped. From my experience, a Casual play can be up to 60% faster, specially when you already know the way.

But it's up to you, of course!

[datguy13]

Originally posted by Darkness:

Originally posted by datguy13:

Whoever told you that you were safe in Arena from perma-death was very wrong. Sorry. :(

Lol, but arena ends when you die. You're supposed to die, makes no sense losing a hardcore character to it.

It's like losing a hardcore character if you go on a PvP mode, would be stupid as well.

True, you should be allowed to die without losing the character there, but I've never heard any official word that characters were safe there.


Best bet would be to report it on Mantis.

Originally posted by .:Jj:.:

Yeah I guess it was a mistake to play HC just after release. So much essence and great items lost. I'd say bug that makes players loose their characters should be fixed day one or at least in first patch.
Game is too good to hate it, but man- so many hours wasted for nothing.

For what it's worth, sorry you lost all that work.

[Psojed]

Originally posted by FraggerDaddy:

But thats really bad design, you could loose your Char from a simple misclick, as you just have to accidentally press enter and that was it, you cant exit without dying so you are screwed, that cant be right.

You can exit, you just have to not die.

[red13seto]

Originally posted by Psojed:

Originally posted by FraggerDaddy:

But thats really bad design, you could loose your Char from a simple misclick, as you just have to accidentally press enter and that was it, you cant exit without dying so you are screwed, that cant be right.

You can exit, you just have to not die.

but do you get the loot and any fate if its a quest?

[.:Jj:.]

You get nothing, XP maybe. But I saw loot dropiing out at the 'end' of the arena = my death.

[UberNyuber]

Happened to me too. Lost a hardcore character in the Arena.

You can always leave between waves I think. But I would stay away from the arena as hc character because there is no reward for you.

Leave arena early = no reward.
Get killed = no reward/permadeath.

"I saw one topic where players said death in Arena is safe for HC characters."
That was a troll post, I fell for that one too.

[Geotarrr]

Originally posted by .:Jj:.:

I've searched save data locations and it seems game removed char save file already. This is ridiculous. Haven't finished single playthrough and I already don't want to play anymore. I've spent so much time finding all hidden content in each location so far...

Then there's this mode when you fight until you die. Whoops! HC char? To bad, screw you.
It's not their first title. It blows my mind it works that way....


I've sent an email to their support. If there is no solution to this I'm taking a long break- at least game will be patched when I decide to go back. And there's new build of Grim Dawn released today.

It's pretty sad, man. But in online games (or in the case of Final Cut - in online mode) there's important process when you play HC - you constantly build-up better and better items for different levels, to help for you next characters, when the current dies. You should always have in mind that you character may die.

And if you want to manage your save-files yourself - you should play offline. That way the saves are stored locally. But it comes with respective drawbacks - you cannot progress in leaderboards with your offline-characters, you cannot participate in online events and you cannot play multiplayer with another online-characters.

[linas.warrior]

Is there final wave in the arena? Or it lasts until you die?