Casino Challenge

[Geeky Meerkat]

So a quick note before getting to the challenge. This is a challenge provided by me to the other players in how to conduct themselves in the casino, with a spicific goal in mind. That means that there will be spoilers here. I personally will not be putting anything in spoiler tags. I encourage others to NOT use spoiler tags either. If you are worried about the game being spoiled for you do NOT keep reading.

Okay there we go, now for the challenge. So everyone knows the classic challenge of getting a modifier into the casino. Personally how I managed to do it is I went in with that device that can tell you the names of things and then I figured out the name to a door in the casino and then modified a door somewhere else in the world to take me to it. That though is MUCH to easy. Furthermore using the teleport device is WAY to easy.

So here are the rules:

1. You may not use that hand held device that tells you the names of items.
   
2. You may not use the teleport device.
   
3. You may not use modified drinks.
   
4. You may not use the name of an object unless you have some how learned the name under the confines of these rules.
   
5. No learning the names of rooms by pulling a list from a computer that has a list of all rooms.
   
6. All information used must be aquired in game. (so no learning the name of something by looking at game files or having someone in this discussion saying it)

I'm half tempted to say you may not use the police computer (or the other computers that have simular features to that computer) but I'm not sure it's possible at that point. But hey consider that your extra credit challenge.

[AuoroP]

So this seemed impossible to me but I wanted to give recent players a chance to play around with this challenge... I found a non-obvious but trivial solution...
I know the OP intended me to spoil everyone with my solution but it has 5 lines; including comment and Input! can remove spoiler tag on request!
# I found 'Pogo' on the balcony
Connect('Pogo') # you can slurp to pogo
Connect('PowerTap') # kludge conn. name from inspecting a PowerTap!
Input('Slurp?')
Slurp() # slurp works on Pogo; but fails to Slurp for Pogo alone

[SLN314]

That's a nice workaround
The slurp function has too much potential...
Just after learning that some rubbish goes to someone's room I slurped there.
Getting a modifier into the casino WITHOUT slurping must be the real challenge.

[AuoroP]

A94, thanks! I'll be interested in your success or failure! trying to find another way!

[Fadamaka]

I think this is a simple and elegant solution, kind of cheaty, because I am using the MainFrame:

void CheckBalance()
var mf=Connect("MainFrame")
mf.SetPosition("Hotel_Modifier","Sebastian")
end

You just walk right in, check your balance and there you go. ;) Although make sure you are on the 2nd floor.

I haven't checked the other solutions, so might be a duplicate. I will work on another one where I don't use any computers with godlike functions. But that won't fit in 4 lines. :D

[AuoroP]

Originally posted by Fadamaka:

I think this is a simple and elegant solution, kind of cheaty, because I am using the MainFrame
...
I haven't checked the other solutions, so might be a duplicate. I will work on another one where I don't use any computers with godlike functions. But that won't fit in 4 lines. :D

That is both unique and elegant! Thanks for sharing it! :D

[Geeky Meerkat]

I do agree, for the most part I like it, though unless you've done side exploring and broke into the ministry ahead of schedule there is no way to know about MF at that point. I'm trying to recall if the computer for the Mayor's game is before or after that point. If it's before you could legit use that one without going to far off the rails.

[AuoroP]

Originally posted by Geeky Meerkat:

I do agree, for the most part I like it, though unless you've done side exploring and broke into the ministry ahead of schedule there is no way to know about MF at that point. I'm trying to recall if the computer for the Mayor's game is before or after that point. If it's before you could legit use that one without going to far off the rails.

I believe the Mayor Mission was an optional follow-up to the Casino mission.

[AuoroP]

I did some searching with Atom: the vanilla game has 0 Compiter references, my better game mod has one relevant computer from my InitData/Sprak/Computers/TestComputer.sprak

Connect('CentralServer')
Connect('HanksSteeringComputer')
Connect('Heart')
Connect('MainFrame')
Connect('MeteorologyServer')
Connect('PowerTap')
Connect('Wellspringer')

var conns = GetConnections()
loop c in conns
    Print(c)
end

Print('Press enter to enter the computer')
Input('')
Print('3')
Print('2')
Print('1')
Slurp()  

[AuoroP]

The intent of the code on that computer is to teach new players that they Slurp! It should also be a workng framwork like player homes you get with Vechz' Super Hostile maps...
In InitData/Sprak/Computers/HanksSteeringComputer.sprak

loop x from 1 to 5
    Print(x)

DisplayGraphics()

Connect('MeteorologyServer').SetRain(0)

Connect('CentralServer')

#### HELPER FUNCTIONS ####

void RandomLine(number x)
    SetRandomColor()
    var y = x * 20
    Line(x * 50, 0, x, y)
end

void SetRandomColor()
    var r = Random()
    var g = Random()
    var b = Random()
    Color(r, g, b)
end

void SlowPrint(string x)
    Print(x)
    Sleep(0.5)
end

[AuoroP]

Unless any body provides feedback, I am done editing that code... I know you can break the game with a teleporter: mine cycles your location with stops: soda store, hotel, cafe, casino, plaza and elsa's place!!! The exact oppossite of game breaking possibility!

[Fadamaka]

Originally posted by Geeky Meerkat:

I do agree, for the most part I like it, though unless you've done side exploring and broke into the ministry ahead of schedule there is no way to know about MF at that point. I'm trying to recall if the computer for the Mayor's game is before or after that point. If it's before you could legit use that one without going to far off the rails.

In my first playthrough, right after the factory mission, when the "flowers" appeared in the hotel. When I frist saw them, I instantly right clicked to hack them. They were connected to Hugin, so I added Slurp() to the code and voila. I was in the same room as the MainFrame right before the casino mission.

The story didn't take me there, but my curiousity. Afterwards I even checked if it is possible to hack the flowers with the stock modifier, it is. I think this one is an oversight by the devs, I couldn't slurp to any other computer in that room.

You are right, I went off track. But in my defense, I only added "Slurp()" to the code of a flower. :D

[AuoroP]

Surprisingly, you can use SetPosition from the Police Missing Person Finder!

[AuoroP]

The name of Pogo is trivially discovered because the game option 'talk to Pogo' tells you his name... Discovering names without an extractor or using the MainFrame to find names is laid out in the rules of this challenge... I suspect you may be able to brute force code use usng a sink.AppendCode and a drink ... but using drinks is also disallowed...

[AuoroP]

You can:
meet Pogo at the casino,
go to Hugin's neighbor or hack the computer in the Police that reads 'MissingPersonFinder ',
find Pogo's position,
send your modifier[s] to Pogo's position,
go though Casino Security,
go get your modifier[s]! :D

[Geeky Meerkat]

Originally posted by Fadamaka:

Originally posted by Geeky Meerkat:

I do agree, for the most part I like it, though unless you've done side exploring and broke into the ministry ahead of schedule there is no way to know about MF at that point. I'm trying to recall if the computer for the Mayor's game is before or after that point. If it's before you could legit use that one without going to far off the rails.

In my first playthrough, right after the factory mission, when the "flowers" appeared in the hotel. When I frist saw them, I instantly right clicked to hack them. They were connected to Hugin, so I added Slurp() to the code and voila. I was in the same room as the MainFrame right before the casino mission.

The story didn't take me there, but my curiousity. Afterwards I even checked if it is possible to hack the flowers with the stock modifier, it is. I think this one is an oversight by the devs, I couldn't slurp to any other computer in that room.

You are right, I went off track. But in my defense, I only added "Slurp()" to the code of a flower. :D

Actually no I don't consider that going off track at all. The story introduced the flowers, and you investigated them. Unlike the modifer in that one building that you can just pick up at the start of the game even though absolutely nothing even hints that there might be a reason to go in that building.